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Replying to: richardga73 (Feb 10, 2009 6:07 pm) I disagree. I've bought plenty of new cars (and test driven many, many more). If the salesperson comes with me (which they often don't) and they want to talk, I ask them to please not speak. I turn off stability control and pay attention to the dynamics. I am sure to test the steering feel, brakes, turn-in, understeer, oversteer, body roll, body structure, quietness, seat comfort, air conditioning, stereo sound, etc. Anyone who pays attention while test-driving a car can do all of this in less than 30 minutes (15 minutes driving and 15 minutes in the lot). Heck, I've spent 4 hours in an electronics store just to purchase a set of $500 stereo speakers. Surely a $35,000 car is worth an investment of time and research? If you're serious about purchasing, don't be in a hurry to get out of there. I would tell the salesperson that you'd like to drive the car to your house to show it to the family, make sure it fits in the garage, test fit baby seats, whatever. Heck, I've had salespeople offer to let me keep a car overnight (and I've done it). When you're spending $35,000+ on a car, you are in control, not the salesman. If they don't bend over backwards to please you, take your time and money elsewhere. |
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However, the only car I'd consider trading for my 08 manual E90 335 with Sports Pkg, is perhaps an 06 E46 M3 with Competition Pkg. But then, you'd have to live with 2002 electronics and body design. So, why not get the E90 M3??..Well, just read the reviews and look at the buldgy thing..nearly every review has commented on its bloated weight and numb steering feel. Fact is, unless you're able and willing to dish out P-Car money, the best you can do with today is to get a 335i ...or perhaps a 370Z. But, I don't really like the Z's space ship look. The car looks like it could Zap you..perhaps that's what Z stands fer..hmm. So..the 335, to me..is the best one can do for at or under $45k right now. I hope, more than anything, that BMW will focus on weight... Under 3000 lbs should be a goal for the next 3. The 135 moves in the right direction in terms of weight but went in the opposite direction in terms of styling and image. I say..Loose the 1 series...focus on making the 3 lighter. ..emm, and improve Low end torque even MORE!  Now that Bangle is gone..who knows, It's possible! Joseph San Diego
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So my wife's 2 weeks with an '09 328iA X drive (Why can't the just call it a 328Xi anymore?) coupe came to a close when our service advisor called this afternoon to tell my Dad that his '07 X5 was finished. Here's what I came away with after getting some good seat time. The interior of the 3 series coupe is gorgeous. I got in the car and immediately felt "at home." I really like the exterior too. Handling was very impressive, especially for a non sport suspension equipped car. The ride is rock solid, everything you'd expect from a German car company. Steering is excellent too. The 230hp I6 definitely gets up to speed. Many times I blasted onto the highway and saw the needle sweep past the 90 mph mark. However, I got in our '07 X3 tonight after turning the coupe in and the X3 felt like it pulled harder. I always say the X3 isn't lightning fast, but when you drop the hammer, it hustles. So I guess more power could help (It always can). You can definitely feel the weight of this bad boy when cornering. |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Feb 11, 2009 7:46 pm) The 335i is a great sedan, but it doesn't belong in the same sentence as a Porsche coupe or 370Z. The Porsche and 370Z are primarily sports cars - the BMW is primarily a compromise. "Under 3000 lbs should be a goal for the next 3." My goal is to work for NASA as a Space Shuttle pilot. 
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Replying to: fedlawman (Feb 11, 2009 8:55 pm) by the way.. [1987-1990] E30 M3 2733 lbs <-- 21 years ago! Joseph San Diego
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Replying to: jmaroun (Feb 11, 2009 9:54 pm) It is completely unacceptable as a sport/luxury car by today's standards. Even though it's a BMW, it has almost nothing in common with today's Bavarian Behemoths. They'll never build one like it again. If you want to drive a Lotus Exige but need a backseat, it's the perfect car for you - if you can find one. |
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Bavarian bhemoths is right. Why did they increase content thus increasing weight? The only thing I notice is that maybe they are quieter which is a good thing but they handle maybe lousier with a loss of touch a little number
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Replying to: richardga73 (Feb 12, 2009 7:28 pm) From what I've read, BMW seems to be going away from their roots of designing small, nimble cars that are a blast to drive and throw around to well behaved highway cruisers. Maybe they feel a need to compete more directly against Lexus/Infinity/Acura. Everything they add to a car adds weight. Whether it's power windows and seats, sun roofs, ABS, active suspensions, (you name it) - it all takes a toll on weight. Every pound adds up, 'ti' the low 3000 lb car of 20 years ago is now a high 3000 lb vehicle. |
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Can anyone recommend a Verizon phone that works well with a 2009 BMW Bluetooth system? Mine rarely works through the car. Thanks,
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Replying to: ad3series (Feb 14, 2009 7:58 am) Regards, OW |
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