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Replying to: mvs1 (Aug 13, 2008 5:01 pm) Just so you know, both the 328i and the 335i sport 3.0 liter engines (as did the E90 325i and 330i before them). That said, the main difference between the two current models is in the engine, drive train, suspension and brakes (not to mention a few interior goodies). The normally aspirated 328i has a trick aluminum/magnesium block where the 335i has a good old iron block and two turbochargers breathing on things. Their transmissions are different (at least in the case of the cars with three pedals under the dash), the wheels and tires are different, and the more powerful car gets larger brakes. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Aug 13, 2008 6:00 pm) I made the same mistake during the test drive and the salesperson corrected my statement as you have. In car buying there are many different types of buyers, as I've been reviewing posts in these forums, of which many of the posters are long standing BMW owners. Some of these very same owners go the route of modifying their vehicles and even race them on tracks... then there's a buyer such as me. I'm not brand loyal, I view vehicles in simpler terms. Do I like the way the car looks, does it have all the amenities I want, interior space, how the car does or does not handle a curvy road, etc. Then pulling up simply numbers how does it stack up against other's in it's class, I subscribe and read the reviews from the car mags (or rags)....then I buy/lease what the wife and/or I want after test driving. Overall I'm very interested in the car, otherwise I would not be posting, looking for feedback, etc. My comments still relate simply to the overall package, handling, and HP vs. others, and specifically for me in this latest 3-series the interior/exterior of the car.
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Replying to: mvs1 (Aug 16, 2008 11:57 am) I'm not brand loyal either, but if I like a restaurant, there is a high probability I will go back. I might want to try other restaurants also. I feel the same about cars. |
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Replying to: mvs1 (Aug 16, 2008 11:57 am) Sounds like you need to hold on that Infiniti. With the BMW you'll be paying for abilities that you will never come close to exploiting. |
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Just ordered a 2009 335i x drive sedan. Space Grey which is new for the sedan in 2009. I got "Fine Line Aluminum Trim" which replaced the brushed aluminum. I have no idea the difference but I am hoping I like it. The base price went up $800 to $42,000. Premium audio is now a stand alone option at $875 and was included with the 335. Cold Climate went up to $1000 but now includes heated steering wheel and the sports package is now $1350 for the x drive. That pays for sport seats, black shadowline exterior trim around the windows, and new wheels. Given the $350 increase for this package, I really hope the wheels will be better than the 2008. I am getting 17 inch all seasons. I really didn't like the 18's or 17's from the 2008 sports package. To me a 335 x drive sports package should have killer wheels even on the 17's. I hope the handling is what I would expect. No sport suspension on the x drive 3 series. Any insight there? They don't have the lease deals yet. I got offered 4% off msrp along with mats and wheel locks. Not nearly the deal I would receive on an '08 but now I get the car exactly how I want it, with all the new changes, slight but meaningful I am hoping. I hope the lease deals are the same as on the 2008's. The 2008 I was looking at was .019 MF and 58% residual. I came very close to buying a 2008 coupe. Liked the grey wood the best and wish that was an option on the sedan. I hope I made a good decision. Regardless, I am excited. |
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any one know if they are offering the wagon in 335 version? I've read conflicting reports on various sites.
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Replying to: sunilb (Aug 25, 2008 8:30 pm) |
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The 09 335i offers little improvement for its huge price hike IMO. I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08. And for what? An updated i-Drive?? I'd rather get a stand alone garmin which works better and is portable. The front and rear facia modifications are of frivolous significance, lacking bold enough initiative to create any meaningful effect. I'd argue the changes have moved backwards, style wise as well as value/$ wise, in some respects. Making the logic 7 sound system an option makes the G37 all the more attractive from a value/$ stand point; not that I particularly recommend the G37. The move for shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect. Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim. I've always lamented on how the E9x M3 only comes with shadow line trim. Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs. Borrowing the coupe's rims for the sedan is another plain example of weak imaginitive marketing. Such a move reduces the unique styling of the sedan. I think buyers see right through the hype. They are obvious attempts to increase profit margins on the cheap at a cost to loyal bmw consumers. All in all the 335i still represents a superb design effort worth every extra penny. People will buy the car en masse. It's just that these days, those extra pennies hurt. So, I'd highly recommend getting an 08 now while it's still possible. Not only will you get a price significantly under MSRP, but you'll get great 0.9% financing and you won't have to bare the brunt of a significant price hike for practically no benefit. Joseph San Diego |
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am) I figure the average configured car will cost 2-4k MORE than a similarly equipped 08." Well, I think the exterior improvements are great. They fixed exactly what I thought was wrong with the old sedan. The new front end looks wider and more aggressive, and the tail looks wider and less "fat-faced." I especially think the more coupe-like tail lights with LEDs are a big improvement. As for pricing, according to the BMWNA Dealer Bulletin, the base price has increased $800, Cold Weather Package is up $150, and Sport Package is up $350. Park Distance Control is up $350, but now has both front and rear sensors. No price increases listed for Premium Package, Navigation, or iDrive. Even if you check EVERY option in the book, it's impossible to pay $3000 more than a 2008, let alone $4000. For an "average configured car," $1000 - $1500 is more realistic, and well within reason for a model year increase - even without a mid-cycle refresh. "shadowline trim instead of chrome has not been warmly welcomed by those who've realized the asthetic effect...Chrome trim, I thought, was a beautiful added feature available to the 335i over the 328's standard shadow line trim." You mean there's a community of BMW enthusiasts who are publicly expressing their dislike of shadowline trim?!?! Seriously though, you know, historically, BMW has used shadowline trim as an UPGRADE over chrome to signify a special car (M cars). Also, I'm sure you know that the 335i doesn't have "chrome" trim - it has "matte aluminum" trim. You must also know that the 328i doesn't have "shadowline" trim - it has "matte black" trim. "Deleting chrome trim for 335is with sports package represents to me, poor judgment and an attempt to decrease manufacturing costs." Actually, "High Gloss Shadowline" trim is the costliest trim BMW uses: Matte black trim (328i) - part # 51137117243/4 - $121.64 per side Chrome trim (330i) - part # 51137121235/6 - $157.36 per side High gloss shadowline trim (Optional) - part # 51137906917/8 - $218.74 per side Well, at least you know you can have chrome trim on whatever E90 you might decide to purchase. Just $300 and a rubber mallet is all it takes...
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 27, 2008 3:30 pm) The $800 increase is what I was lead to believe as well. |
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