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Re: Rats! [fedlawman] by circlew
Nov 28, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 26, 2008 9:32 pm)

The engine change aside, shorter term concerns exist.
 
They might need to do another movie quick...
 
CEO says BMW in “biggest crisis in its history;” rivals have similar concerns
 
BMW, which has seen it sales double since 1999, is now in the “biggest crisis in its history,” CEO Norbert Reithofer told Germany’s Spiegel. Like all automakers, BMW’s sales have been hit hard by the financial crisis, but the company’s reliance on leasing for a large percentage puts it in an even more vulnerable position.
 
Reithofer isn’t alone in his sentiment. Daimler boss Dieter Zetsche admitted the situation could easily be the “worst crisis since World War II.” If that’s the case, expect more job cuts and production slowdowns at Mercedes and BMW.
 
Even Volkswagen, which has a much broader brand and model mix, is concerned about its future. “We have never before seen this kind of a crisis,” chairman Martin Winterkorn said. He said it would be impossible for his company to avoid “difficult cuts” and “painful” measures.
 
According to the New York Times, luxury cars from BMW and Mercedes are beginning to pile up at U.S. ports. But they aren’t the only ones. Literally thousands of Toyota and Nissan models have filled acres of land at the port in Long Beach, California. In fact, Mercedes, Toyota and Nissan have requested to lease additional space at a 160-acre lot to park their slow-selling cars.
 
Recently, Toyota Executive Vice President Mitsuo Kinoshita characterized the current situation as “an emergency, of a magnitude we have never seen before.”
 
So is any automaker immune to the economic collapse in America, Europe, and Asia? Simply put: no. After all, Mercedes, BMW, VW, and Toyota are usually thought of as the most stable automakers in the world. Their survival will depend entirely on their ability to quickly adapt to slowing sales. Without the same rigid union and legacy costs of the Detroit Three, we’re hopeful they’ll all pull through.

 
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OW
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Training and MACO by xman7
Dec 07, 2008 (9:33 pm)
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Does anyone know if 'Training and MACO' ($560) comes from BMW charge to dealer on every car?
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Re: Training and MACO [xman7] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 08, 2008 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: xman7 (Dec 07, 2008 9:33 pm)

Training is $180... that is on every US delivered BMW.
 
MACO is a regional advertising charge, that varies by location.. Probably 90%-95% of dealers pay this. Averages $300-$500 in most locations.
 
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Re: Training and MACO [kyfdx] by xman7
Dec 08, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 08, 2008 9:26 am)

Thanks, kyfdx.
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sales tax 0 in Dec? by xman7
Dec 11, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Hi,
 
Do you know if 'Sales Tax $0 (BMW will cover sales tax for the month of December) ' applys to all 3 serise in purchase? I have just purchaseed my 328ci two days ago. But dealer didn't mention it to me at all. Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks.
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Re: sales tax 0 in Dec? [xman7] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 11, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: xman7 (Dec 11, 2008 1:35 pm)

That's a Texas thing, not a BMW thing..
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Re: Training and MACO [kyfdx] by espan
Dec 15, 2008 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 08, 2008 9:26 am)

I priced out both 2008 and 2009 328i on edmunds. I found out the calculation did not include any paint charge in the invoice for 2009 model, but added the charge (500) for the 2008 model. Did dealer actually pay for the paint charges? I need some help in this to give an offer to my dealer. Thanks.
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Re: [jmaroun] by sammybmw
Dec 18, 2008 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: jmaroun (Aug 27, 2008 9:24 am)

I'd agree that price increase was too much for the 2009 with little in return and don't forget that was after a mid-year price increase. The removal of the Logic 7 from the base 335 without discounting was a nasty trick. Will they take the HID's next? I was considering waiting to buy a 2009 in 2009 and then I saw the price increase. I just couldn't see where I got much in return for the huge increase so I bought a 2008 335i late in the year, (i still see some available online) BMW unlike other high priced, poor value cars like MB for instance does make the best car in the class, the 335i so the high price is partially justified. imho
 
general comment for discussion. since when do so many need these "all wheel drive" cars with its weight/mileage and other disadvantages to drive around in the winter. How about snow tires and sensible winter driving? Maybe even some added weighted over the rear axle.

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