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I have a lease offer on 2009 BMW 328 i convertible as follows. I would appreciate your opinion as to what you think of this offer. 328i conv with metallic paint, leatherette, automatic transmissio, cold weather pkg, comfort access, BMW assist, ipod/usb adopter. For 660/month 2250 due at signing + dmv fees. First month's payment of 660 for 36 months for 12k/yr .20 for additional mileage 61% residual at the end of the lease 700 security deposit 825 bank fee (which he 's now calling cap reduction ( 761.24 + tax 63.75) since he forgot to charge tax on the bank fee). I'm not sure if this makes a difference? dealer app fee 45 State inspection 10 Tire tax 10 500 deposit which will count towards the 2250 ie. the final first months payment will be $1750. disposition fee will be 350 Upon asking I was told that the selling price is 46,276. |
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Does anyone know if the 2009 328ci SULEV model still comes with the fuel pump sealed inside the gas tank? Or has BMW moved the fuel pump out of the tank? I have a 2006 328ci SULEV approaching end of lease and the the fuel pump is non serviceable. To replace it, the entire fuel tank assembly costs $7995. I plan to turn it in and get a 2009 as long as it does not have the same bad design.
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Replying to: teebone1958 (Nov 17, 2008 11:37 am) Just curious, why do you want to service the fuel pump?  Best regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 17, 2008 11:42 am) Also, BMW tests ethanol level of the fuel if the car is under warranty. If the level is above 10%, they will void warranty unless you pay for replavcing the tank, and cleaning the injectors. This has happened to many (just Google it), they misread my Ethanol level and threatened me with this last week. Once I called the Department of Agriculture, they backed off and told me the fuel retested ok.
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Replying to: teebone1958 (Nov 17, 2008 1:58 pm) Said another way, I think you're A) worrying needlessly, and B) going to have a difficult time finding a car that doesn't have an integral fuel tank/fuel pump. As for your claimed ethanol issues, while I'm not saying that it isn't happening, I will say that A) I've never heard of it, and B) your dealership sounds like they may be a bunch of crooks. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 17, 2008 5:43 pm)  120,000 miles. A cheap and easy fix, hoever. Other than that, no fuel pump failures on any of my FI cars going back to 1983. That said, I have heard that the fuel pumps on the N54s can be problematic. I think his dealership is not only crooked, but they are trying to scare him into a new car. Kind of like the thieves who charge over $150 for an oil service to encourage owners to extend their service contract or flip the car for a new one.
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 17, 2008 5:43 pm) In essence, I do not want to own a car which has a single mechanical point of failure which can cause a 8000 dollar repair (w\o labor). As otherwise, I like the car (and the BMW make), I want to make sure the next car I buy does not have such a bad design (to be clear, I am ok with the pump\filter in the tank as long as it can be replaced if it goes (as they do sometimes especially with the introduction of ethanol in the fuel). Therefore I have two questions: 1. Does anyone know if the 2008 or 2009 SULEV engines have a non serviceable fuel pump\filter? 2. Does a dealership in a SULEV state have to sell the SULEV engine only (or can they sell a non SULEV engine? From what I understand, the non SULEV engine does not have the pump\filter SEALED into the gas tank. In other words it is replaceable. Also, I do not beleive in 'lifetime' filters.
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Replying to: teebone1958 (Nov 18, 2008 7:01 am) A couple of other things that don't feel right about your posts: 1) I've combed through all of my BMW ordering information and can find no evidence to support your claim that SULEV cars are only sold in CARB states. Per my information, every BMW sold in the U.S. carries the same SULEV rating. 2) The $8,000 number you keep posting sounds more than a bit exaggerated for a fuel pump replacement, even if it does require the entire tank. I'm thinking that whom ever quoted you that number is expecting to make lots of money off of you. Best regards, Shipo
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