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2009 BMW 3-Series

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Re: People.... [carnaught] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 23, 2008 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Oct 23, 2008 3:20 pm)

Reminds me of that Gary Larson cartoon with the cows peering into the interior of a fancy car with a shocked look on their faces----LOL!
 
Okay I can let go of this subject.
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Oct 24, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Here's the link: quattroporte12, "BMW 3-Series vs Audi S4" #2, 23 Oct 2008 8:02 pm.
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2009 BMW 328 i conv Lease. Am I getting a good deal by tara8
Nov 14, 2008 (10:31 am)
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I have a lease offer on 2009 BMW 328 i convertible as follows. I would appreciate your opinion as to what you think of this offer.
328i conv with metallic paint, leatherette, automatic transmissio, cold weather pkg, comfort access, BMW assist, ipod/usb adopter.
 
For 660/month 2250 due at signing + dmv fees.
 
First month's payment of 660 for 36 months for 12k/yr
.20 for additional mileage
61% residual at the end of the lease
700 security deposit
825 bank fee (which he 's now calling cap reduction ( 761.24 + tax 63.75) since he forgot to charge tax on the bank fee). I'm not sure if this makes a difference?
 
dealer app fee 45
State inspection 10
Tire tax 10
500 deposit which will count towards the 2250 ie. the final first months payment will be $1750.
 
disposition fee will be 350
 
Upon asking I was told that the selling price is 46,276.
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2009 328ci SULEV Fuel Pump by teebone1958
Nov 17, 2008 (11:37 am)
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Does anyone know if the 2009 328ci SULEV model still comes with the fuel pump sealed inside the gas tank? Or has BMW moved the fuel pump out of the tank? I have a 2006 328ci SULEV approaching end of lease and the the fuel pump is non serviceable. To replace it, the entire fuel tank assembly costs $7995. I plan to turn it in and get a 2009 as long as it does not have the same bad design.
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Re: 2009 328ci SULEV Fuel Pump [teebone1958] by shipo
Nov 17, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: teebone1958 (Nov 17, 2008 11:37 am)

I don't know of a single manufacturer in the world that produces cars with the fuel pump located outside of the fuel tank. Said another way, chances are extremely high (like > 99%) that any car you look at next will feature an in-tank fuel pump.
 
Just curious, why do you want to service the fuel pump?
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: 2009 328ci SULEV Fuel Pump [shipo] by teebone1958
Nov 17, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Nov 17, 2008 11:42 am)

The problem is that it is sealed in the fuel tank. To replace it, you need to replace the entire fuel tank which costs $7995. I have yet to have a vehicle where I did not have to change the fuel pump at some time. I do not want to take this car off lease because if the fuel pump goes down the road, I might not be worth replacing.
 
Also, BMW tests ethanol level of the fuel if the car is under warranty. If the level is above 10%, they will void warranty unless you pay for replavcing the tank, and cleaning the injectors. This has happened to many (just Google it), they misread my Ethanol level and threatened me with this last week. Once I called the Department of Agriculture, they backed off and told me the fuel retested ok.
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Re: 2009 328ci SULEV Fuel Pump [teebone1958] by shipo
Nov 17, 2008 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: teebone1958 (Nov 17, 2008 1:58 pm)

I don't know what you've been doing with your cars, but the last car I had any fuel pump problems with was my 1970 Challenger, and that was an old-fashioned mechanical/diaphragm type of pump. Since then I've driven over a million miles in fuel injected cars (all of which had in-tank fuel pumps), and not one of them has ever had an issue.
 
Said another way, I think you're A) worrying needlessly, and B) going to have a difficult time finding a car that doesn't have an integral fuel tank/fuel pump.
 
As for your claimed ethanol issues, while I'm not saying that it isn't happening, I will say that A) I've never heard of it, and B) your dealership sounds like they may be a bunch of crooks.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

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