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Re: The slalom numbers are great but.... [kc177] by dennisctc
Sep 07, 2007 (3:37 am)
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Replying to: kc177 (Sep 06, 2007 5:35 pm)

I recently read your article on the minivan comparison. Overall while I understand Edmund's propensity for Honda products. This comparison just goes over board.
 
This article is one yahoo's impression! Since he goes on and on about things that don't matter to your typical minivan owner i.e..cornering Gs, i'm assuming he's single and probably never owned a minivan.
 
I think he's getting nervous about the Dodge vans, as he has to tout the 08 Ody at the end
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Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odyssey by odysseydrver
Sep 07, 2007 (9:52 am)
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Looking forward to drive the Chrysler as a rental. I'll never buy this cheap looking van to replace 2000 ody.
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Re: Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odyssey [odysseydrver] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: odysseydrver (Sep 07, 2007 9:52 am)

Looking forward to drive the Chrysler as a rental. I'll never buy this cheap looking van to replace 2000 ody.
 
Good, then you'll miss out on all the goodies Chrysler put on their vans, your 2000 Ody can only dream about.
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Sometimes I read these things and it makes me laugh by 6sptl
Sep 07, 2007 (6:38 pm)
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"Edmunds has a Honda BIAS" Sure, so does consumer reports, car and driver, motor trend, road and track and pretty much every car publication in the US not to mention Great Britain the far east and so on. Its like the war in Irak, we haven't lost it its the media that is losing it for us!!
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Re: Sometimes I read these things and it makes me laugh [6sptl] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: 6sptl (Sep 07, 2007 6:38 pm)

"Edmunds has a Honda BIAS" Sure, so does consumer reports, car and driver, motor trend, road and track and pretty much every car publication in the US not to mention Great Britain the far east and so on. Its like the war in Irak, we haven't lost it its the media that is losing it for us!!
 
Oct. Motor Trend, page 134
 
The Japanese machines still hold an edge in interior finish, the dashes in the Honda and Toyota are large, unbroken expanses of rich looking material, whereas the Dodge uses harder plastic with an abundance of cut lines. But in every other way the Dodge felt the equal or superior vehicle.
 
Wheels Ca
 
"Chrysler laid on both a Toyota Sienna and a Honda Odyssey for back-to-back comparisons. These two suggest that the Japanese are still ahead on interior trim quality.
 
Chrysler recently upped the interior ante on its big sedans; a similar program should be in the works for the minivans, if it isn't already.
 
It's better than it was, just not at the top level yet.
 
And the mighty Odyssey engine is still the best in the field.
 
But for choice, features, functionality and value, the Chrysler minivan still rules."
 
Toronto Star
 
http://www.wheels.ca/newsFeatures/article/30709
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Re: Sometimes I read these things and it makes me laugh [marine2] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (8:52 pm)
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 07, 2007 8:11 pm)

Summary
 
What Edmunds.com says
Handsome, packed full of thoughtful features and offering almost endless entertainment options, the 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan reclaims its spot as a top-tier minivan.
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Re: Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odysse by odysseydrver
Sep 07, 2007 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 07, 2007 11:25 am)

"Good, then you'll miss out on all the goodies Chrysler put on their vans, your 2000 Ody can only dream about."
 
Chrysler has to pay attention to the competition more intently. Right now, its only advantage is providing for rental fleets. Honda, Toyota, and even Hyundai/Kia are out there with equal and/or even better car quality and features. Yes, Chrysler may have cutting-edge features for now because of its launch. But wait till you see the reviews on its quality, handling, intuitiveness, safety, and even the number of times it will be recalled (I wouldn't be surprised if this comes out within the next 12 months) and you'll see who will come out ahead. Of course, these may not apply to you if you intend to change your car within 2-3 years.
 
Now that both GM and Ford are out of the minivan picture, Chrysler must prove to itself that the American minivan is out to compete with the imports. And don't forget that the current Toyota Sienna is aging and should be due for another redesign pretty soon. Until then, Chrysler should enjoy its moment as one of the most innovative minivans today.
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Re: Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odysse [odysseydrver] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: odysseydrver (Sep 07, 2007 8:53 pm)

I wouldn't doubt it will have some recalls, it's a brand new van loaded with electronics and a new engine and transmission. But I don't think it will have that many. Heck, Toyota has been hit with quite a few recalls lately. Some covering their whole line of vehicles. Chrysler's quality has been pretty darn good these last 4-5 years on their minivans. So far, my 2005 has been perfect.
 
Starting next year, they're bringing out a whole bunch of new engines where three cylinders cut out, just like Honda's. So they're not just setting back and letting the Asians take over what they invented. They'll fight to keep the biggest share of the minivan market. With all the different features they have on these vans, they have a model to offer just what any minivan buyer wants, except seating for eight and four wheel drive. I think feature for feature, nobody has Chrysler beat this year. Chrysler has so many the others don't and only a few they have that Chrysler doesn't.
 
I am really happy now that it is back in American hands. That really frosted me when M.B. bought them out.
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Re: Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odysse [odysseydrver] by dennisctc
Sep 08, 2007 (3:11 am)
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Replying to: odysseydrver (Sep 07, 2007 8:53 pm)

But wait till you see the reviews on its quality, handling, intuitiveness, safety, and even the number of times it will be recalled (I wouldn't be surprised if this comes out within the next 12 months) and you'll see who will come out ahead.
 
People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones! I seem to recall quite a few recalls on this current Gen Ody, and one only has to look in Edmunds for all the problems areas there's been!!
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Re: Fixed Mast Antenna??? The Chrysler Looks Cheap Compared To Honda Odysse [dennisctc] by marine2
Sep 08, 2007 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 08, 2007 3:11 am)

They have had a few really big one too.
 
January 19, 2007
Toyota Tundra
 • Engine problems
• Brake problems
• Misc. problems
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News
• Camshaft Flaw in New Tundra Pickup
• New Tundra Pickup Stumbles in NHTSA Safety Test
• Toyota Recalls 533,000 Trucks for Failed Ball Joints
• NHTSA Probes 600,000 Toyota Trucks and Vans
• Toyota Tundra Recalled to Disable Front Passenger Airbag Switch
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• Toyota Trucks
 
  
Toyota Motor Co. is recalling 533,000 trucks and SUVs because of possible steering and suspension problems caused by faulty ball joints.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/aaarecalls_auto.htm
 
Recalls by Toyota and Sony shock Japan's pride - International ...The criminal charges highlighted the soaring number of recalls in recent years by Toyota, a company whose reputation for flawless craftsmanship had made it ...
www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/14/business/quality.php - 41k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

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