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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Article Comments - 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan vs. 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring
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Replying to: gavanmom (Feb 10, 2008 10:00 am) |
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Replying to: socalawd (Sep 21, 2007 2:10 pm) Would you consider this the standard for auto quality, because they are known to have the best.? Toyota Recalls More Cars Than They Sold: Is There Fairness in the Media? When Ford launched the the 2008 Ford Escape and the Mercury Mariner the media was invited out to the ceremony. Some of the reporters want to ask some questions about Ford. The UAW Local 249 bargaining chair R.D Snow had some questions for them. "Why is it that when Toyota has a recall, a small paragraph inside the paper is printed, but if Ford has a recall, it's splashed all over the front page? Of course they said they didn't make those decisions and the suddenly scattered. The fact is the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced that Toyota recalled more vehicles in the US than they sold last year. They recalled 2.38 million vehicles but only sold 2.26 million. Did you hear about that? I doubt it. Did you hear that Toyota is making an major apology for their "worrisome series of recalls" that has tarnished their reputation for quality? Did you hear about the Toyota senior manager saying that, we used to do quit recalls called, service campaigns' to deal with defects. (www.2006toyotarecalls.com) How Americans Can Buy American says that in Japan, prosecutors are looking into possible negligence of the part of Toyota for shrinking recalls for the last eight years. You probably didn't hear about that one either because the American media doesn't like to bash foreign auto companies, just American auto makers. Consumer reports announced that both the Ford Fusion and the Mercury Milan scored higher than both the Toyota Camry and the Honda Accord this year. Toyota Motor Corp it was recalling 533,000 Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia sport utility vehicles because of potential steering problems. Toyota said the recall involved 2004-2006 Tundra trucks and 2004-2007 Sequoia full-size SUVs. The automaker has received reports of 11 accidents and six injuries connected to the recall, said Toyota spokesman Bill Kwong. The automaker said there was a possibility of excessive wear to a front suspension lower ball joint that could make it difficult to steer the vehicle and stay in the center of the lane. Drivers may also notice more noise coming from the front suspension, Kwong said. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/182700/toyota_recalls_more_cars_than_th- ey.html |
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In November 2004 we leased our 1st Dodge Grand Caravan SXT, a 2005, because the Ody did not have a power tailgate unless you bought the Touring model. Also, the Stow & Go seats are awesomely useful, and have proven to be a must-have for us. The underfloor storage is a godsend. We leased a new 2006 Dodge SXT in October 2006. Last month, I looked at the Odyssey again. Still no folding seats, and NO POWER TAILGATE unless you got the touring model, for $40K. See ya Honda! I own a 2003 Accord and a Gold Wing, so I am not some Chrysler fanatic. But Toyota & Honda make you pay extra for major conveniences that the Chrysler vans make available to everyone for little or no cost, no matter what the trim level. We leased a '08 Town & Country Sig.Series, which has pretty much all the toys. I am a believer in the Chrysler vans. There is simply no better alternative when dealing with the realities of transporting a family. The Odyssey may carve corners better, but who honestly cares...it's a van. I want my van to ve convenient and comfortable. |
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I've driven all three of these vehicles lately, the Kia was probably the biggest surprise between them. The 3.8 motor is very strong, the 4.0 Dodge is even faster, the Honda the most refined and best drivers car. The Kia was probably second for driver feedback. The Dodge was hands down the best for the bells and whistles with the DVD and MyGig. I think the Honda would win the MPG war easy with the VCM. Kia has the best warranty by far. I was surprised to see the True Cost to Own of these and the Dodge and Honda were virtually tied but the Kia was about $2000.00 more over 5 years. If the Dodge offered the same warranty as the Kia it would be an easier decision, but Honda is still at the top of my list right now, just for driving fun and resale value, and MPG. It will probably come down to the best deal I can get and the Dodge/Chrysler dealerships are starting to get desperate to sell these and offering some huge rebates. My better half loved the comfort of the Honda best, and the goodies on the Dodge. I think the 08 Dodge though has really improved, but being a first year model that worries me too, look at the Pacifica first year, plagued with problems. Decisions, decisons.
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Replying to: dantana01 (Aug 04, 2008 5:16 am) |
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Replying to: dantana01 (Aug 04, 2008 5:16 am) The Grand Caravan has a LIFETIME powertrain warranty. What is better about the Kia offer?
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Amazing how many SERVICE BULLITENS are issued for Honda and Toyota, but not recalls. Makes you want to think what the hell is the difference? Recall can be splashed across the front of the paper. Service bulliten is barely noticed. Check out all of the Service bullitens issued for my wifes Honda Odyssey. It makes me want to buy the Chrysler even more. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever sent anymore of my good American cash to those Crooks at Honda. Of course my Camry was much better. Fighting with Toyota over who is going to pay for a new engine because the old one SLUDGED up. I think a sludged up engine was in Toyotas "service bulliten" release. See the difference? |
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The 2008 Caravan is quite an impressive vehicle. The power train is quiet and unobtrusive. The 6 speed transmission is extremely refined. Road noise is almost non existant. We were also impressed with the extremely comfortable seats. The under the floor storage space for the mid row seats was also quite handy. Chrysler needs to be advertising all the great features of this vehicle.
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AND buy each for the same $ 30,000 price DELIVERED. Compare the features for a specified actual cost of purchase....and not a TMV or other arbitrary number.  A 2009 GC SXT can be purchased with the 4.0L V6 without extra cost options that were required for the 2008. Can an Odyssey EX or Sienna LE be purchased with a power liftgate or must a buyer upgrade to the Ody Touring or Sienna Limited? The power liftgate is also a stand alone option on the 2009 GC SXT.
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 04, 2008 4:50 pm) A total coverage warranty for 5 years or 60,000 miles bumper to bumper versus Chrysler's 3 years or 36,000 miles. That's what is better; nearly double the full-warranty length.
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