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Full Test: 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 by Mazdaspeed Accessories - he factory-tuned version of the Mazdaspeed 3 is a preposterous pocket rocket that straps nearly 300 horsepower to a chassis riding on a racetrack-type coil-over suspension kit. All the good stuff comes from Mazdaspeed Accessories, so this is the Mazdaspeed Mazdaspeed 3 (Mazdaspeed2?).


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Mazdaspeed CAI by networkguy
Mar 16, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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It may have to wait a bit. On 3/14 Mazda issued a stop sale order-with no explanation-on the CAI to all US dealers. Mine shipped prior to the order but I want to hear the reason before I install it.
 
Yeah, that would make me wonder a bit too. Hopefully it's just an issue for the lawyers and not the engineers.
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [networkguy] by roadburner
Mar 17, 2008 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: networkguy (Mar 16, 2008 7:14 pm)

I'll let you know if/when I hear anything else...
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [networkguy] by roadburner
Mar 18, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: networkguy (Mar 16, 2008 7:14 pm)

Hopefully it's just an issue for the lawyers and not the engineers.
 
A couple of guys on the other Mazda 3 boards are reporting that Mazda is concerned about the fuel trim; it seems that the CAI can cause the motor to run lean and trigger the CEL. A few people think that the problem is caused by the lack of an air straightener upstream from the MAF, which in turn causes the MAF sensor to give a false reading. I believe that the only intakes which have a straightener are the CBE CAI and the Cobb SRI. This is just great. I buy the Mazda CAI to avoid any possibility of a warranty hassle, and now I'm stuck with a fancy paperweight until this gets cleared up. How come Mazda didn't discover this issue during the CARB certification process?
Maybe they can correct it with a new ECU map- and the sooner the better...
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mazdaspeed cai by katdaddy
Mar 20, 2008 (5:23 am)
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Any word on when mazda will resume sales on the cai? No one seems to know what is going on.
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [roadburner] by roadburner
Mar 20, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 18, 2008 5:47 pm)

OK, now I'm hearing that the CAI can cause some cars to run lean off-idle- particularly in colder weather. Not all cars are affected. One source is saying that Mazda will resume selling the CAI but that there will be a re-flash of the ECU to correct the lean condition. Still nothing concrete yet...
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [roadburner] by aviboy97
Mar 20, 2008 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 18, 2008 5:47 pm)

CP-E also makes a CAI that they call the "X-cel", which they say will never throw a CEL. My buddy has it on his speed6, and has never seen the CEL.
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [aviboy97] by roadburner
Mar 20, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 20, 2008 6:43 pm)

CP-E also makes a CAI that they call the "X-cel", which they say will never throw a CEL. My buddy has it on his speed6, and has never seen the CEL.
 
Yes, I mentioned that in an earlier post but stupidly called it the "CBE" . As I understand it the CP-E's air straightener and tubing diameter are the keys to the CP-E's problem free reputation. Actually, I really wanted to go with the Cobb SRI but my dealer-who is excellent in all other respects-doesn't like to see anything that's not OEM or Mazdaspeed on the car. And yes, I know all about Magnuson-Moss...
That said, not all MS3s are throwing a CEL with the MS CAI. I don't know what the variable is, and I don't think Mazda does either. The Cobb AP is supposed to come with a map for the MS CAI, but I hear that the AP won't appear until mid to late April.
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Re: Mazdaspeed CAI [roadburner] by networkguy
Mar 21, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 20, 2008 6:57 pm)

That said, not all MS3s are throwing a CEL with the MS CAI.
 
I wonder if the cars that do throw a CEL have had the shutter valve/EC update done? My car displayed the CEL a couple of weeks after purchase, when the weather got cold. The dealership did the valve replacement and re-flash before the official recall. I went through this whole winter without any issues. Granted, I don't have any CAI installed.
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2009 Chevy Cobalt SS by aviboy97
Mar 25, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Look out Mazda.....looks like Chevy built a serious player here in the compact rocket segment. According to Edmunds, the Cobalt SS is FASTER then the Mazdaspeed3. It raced to 60mph is 5.8 seconds and runs the 1/4 mile in 14 sec flat. I know that there have been numerous reports about the Mazdaspeed3 actually running much better times then those. Mazda advertises 5.4 to 60 and 13.7 in the 1/4 mile.
 
Anyway, looks like the MS3 has a run for it's money.
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Re: 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS [aviboy97] by roadburner
Mar 25, 2008 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 25, 2008 6:14 am)

According to Edmunds, the Cobalt SS is FASTER then the Mazdaspeed3. It raced to 60mph is 5.8 seconds and runs the 1/4 mile in 14 sec flat
 
Not to take anything away from Chevrolet's accomplishment, but I'm going to wait and see what kind of numbers Car and Driver posts before I declare the Cobalt SS King of the Hill. Here's their First Drive Review. And I'll note that CD managed to get a 14 second quarter and a 5.4 second 0-60 time out of a MS3 in their May 2007 "Power Toys" comparison test.
And if the SS still turns out to be faster? Even better! It just gives Mazda-and other automakers in this market niche-a new target to aim for. Competition ALWAYS improves the breed!

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