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ground clearance sport by lax24dmid
Mar 23, 2008 (9:00 am)
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I notice Toyota matrix body styles hang off the bumpers quite a bit with the sport trim package. I wonder if the Fit Sport will have less ground clearance due to front and rear plastic.
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Armrest by jaxs1
Mar 23, 2008 (8:24 pm)
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I noticed that a lot of small Japanese vehicles either have no armrest, or they use a little armrest that flips down from the seat (xB, CR-V, Fit) and are too small and/or too high for comfort.
 
I hope the armrest on the new Fit is at the correct height and is wide and sturdy enough for you to actually relax and rest your arm instead of having to keep it tense to prevent it from falling over the edge of the narrow ledge provided.
 
If it's only 2 or 3 inches wide, the edges will dig into your arm and will be uncomfortable if you're driving for more than short trips.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] by greatmysterio
Mar 24, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 20, 2008 4:27 am)

Just a note. I drive in northern New Jersey with a 2007 Fit with 16 inch wheels. I got snow tires for it and have used them through two winters. North NJ is hilly, but certainly no Minn. or Vermont, but I always felt safe driving in my Fit with my snow tires on.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] [greatmysterio] by tiff_c
Mar 24, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: greatmysterio (Mar 24, 2008 5:38 am)

Just a note. I drive in northern New Jersey with a 2007 Fit with 16 inch wheels. I got snow tires for it and have used them through two winters. North NJ is hilly, but certainly no Minn. or Vermont, but I always felt safe driving in my Fit with my snow tires on.
 
I drive my Civic Si with snow tires Nokian WRG2's and no more problems in the snow on hills anymore. The Fit should be ok in the snow. But not without snow tires, central Vermont is about an hour away from me.
Here you need snow tires but AWD is better because of the hills when you add to that the often unplowed or poorly plowed roads.
AWD's benefits is best seen when starting on a hill which we have a lot of. In flat areas it helps but not as much.
The Fit would feel massively underpowered with even the new 118HP engine and AWD. A Subaru with 170HP is sluggish, of course it also weighs a lot. The AWD drivetrain sucks up a lot of power.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] [greatmysterio] [tiff_c] by jacksan1
Mar 24, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 24, 2008 6:14 am)

The Fit would feel massively underpowered with even the new 118HP engine and AWD. A Subaru with 170HP is sluggish, of course it also weighs a lot. The AWD drivetrain sucks up a lot of power.
 
Actually, I had a chance to drive a previous-generation AWD Fit (1.5 L CVT) in Japan for a day. I drove in a very congested town, and then took her up and down a mountain road from the sea level to 4,000 feet. I did not find the AWD Fit underpowered at all. In fact, I found this car really perky, due perhaps to the well-tuned and -matched CVT. Granted that I did not take this Fit up to the expressway speed because there was no such road nearby to test it on, in this pretty vigorous driving environment that I subjeted this car to, I did not find the AWD Fit underpowered by any manner. Since this was the first Fit I had ever driven up until then, I was quite impressed with the model.
 
Oh, I should add that in this test, I averaged 26 MPG (11 km/l). That may not sound impressive, but the city roads I was on were crawlingly slow, and I took the Fit up on a very steep hill climb right from the harbor to 4000 feet. So seen from that perspective, I think it was an admirable mileage.
 
One advantage of the dual-pump AWD system that Honda offers in the AWD Fit and a car like the CR-V is the it reduces the drivetrain losses (the true advantage is that it is cheaper to Honda). The disadvantage is that it often reacts slowly.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] [greatmysterio] [tiff_c] [jacksan1] by tiff_c
Mar 24, 2008 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 24, 2008 3:29 pm)

Actually, I had a chance to drive a previous-generation AWD Fit (1.5 L CVT) in Japan for a day. I drove in a very congested town, and then took her up and down a mountain road from the sea level to 4,000 feet. I did not find the AWD Fit underpowered at all. In fact, I found this car really perky, due perhaps to the well-tuned and -matched CVT. Granted that I did not take this Fit up to the expressway speed because there was no such road nearby to test it on,
 
I drove a Fit a friend of mine owned when i visited him overseas and it's great in town, but merging into 70+mph traffic on the highway puts a whole new perspective on the Fit. in the city it's a great car and even on hills. it's the fast highways where the Fit has it's real problems. Not surprising because the Fit is a City car.
 
Oh, I should add that in this test, I averaged 26 MPG (11 km/l). That may not sound impressive, but the city roads I was on were crawlingly slow, and I took the Fit up on a very steep hill climb right from the harbor to 4000 feet. So seen from that perspective, I think it was an admirable mileage.
 
My friend used to bitch all the time about only getting 10.5-11km/l in his 1.3L but it was almost always in the city in stop and go traffic with the A/C blasting.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] [greatmysterio] [tiff_c] [jacksan1] [tiff_c] by jacksan1
Mar 25, 2008 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 24, 2008 8:03 pm)

A 1.3 L Fit would definitely run out of breath if trying to fight with an expressway traffic. The one that I drove, however, was a 1.5 L AWD, and even if I compare it with the USDM Fit, one of which we own, I would say that the JDM AWD one that I drove would be rather competitive even at a higher velocity. It was plenty perky, and I was quite impressed with it.
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Re: NA Premier [jacksan1] (tiff_c) [hpmctorque] [tiff_c] [greatmysterio] [tiff_c] [jacksan1] [tiff_c] [jacksan1] by tiff_c
Mar 25, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Mar 25, 2008 1:51 pm)

A 1.3 L Fit would definitely run out of breath if trying to fight with an expressway traffic. The one that I drove, however, was a 1.5 L AWD, and even if I compare it with the USDM Fit, one of which we own, I would say that the JDM AWD one that I drove would be rather competitive even at a higher velocity. It was plenty perky, and I was quite impressed with it.
 
Yeah it was ok in the city tho.
i'm not at all surprised the JDM car was better than the US version. Why the Japanese still do this is unclear to me but since it hasn't bit them yet they'll still continue to do it.
I'd love to have more options when it comes to the Fit. But I think it will be a while before we see that happen.
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Re: Hopefully acceleration is way up [tiff_c] by krazydawg
Dec 02, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Mar 05, 2008 2:43 pm)

"Little cars only do well when you drive them easy. Drive them like a big V8 and the mpg drops big time."
 
Any car that you drive hard and aggressively will suffer in MPG. I still believe a smaller engine yields better MPG for not just city MPG but also highway. If you look on http://www.fueleconomy.gov for cars with engines smaller than 1.5L you'd be surprised at the MPG they get. Their highway MPG is also in the 40s or more.
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Re: Hopefully acceleration is way up [krazydawg] by plekto
Dec 02, 2008 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: krazydawg (Dec 02, 2008 3:26 pm)

I'm not so sure. Top Gear did a test recently of a M3 and a Prius. The Prius as fast around the track as it could go and the M3 tagging along on its bumper all the way.
 
The M3 got far better MPG than the tiny Prius' engine being thrashed around as it was basically loafing along. In fact, to even get the claimed 0-60 time in the Prius, your MPG drops down to about 20 while doing it. You have to drive like a 90 year old grandfather to get 40mpg. We're talking 0-60 in 20-30 seconds. The car isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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