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#25 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [bobw3] by eldaino Sep 14, 2007 (7:04 am)
Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 14, 2007 5:31 am) true.   but even more so than aerodynamics, we gotta realize that the fits engine is older than the r18 in the civic, even if its new to us, and its less technologically advanced.   its more akin to the d series engines that found themselves in the previous generation civics.   and like older civic engines, it gets good fuel economy because of its size, not so much because its been engineered to do so like the r18 has. Replies to this message: bobw3 (Sep 14, 2007 7:35 am)
#26 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [eldaino] by bobw3 Sep 14, 2007 (7:35 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Sep 14, 2007 7:04 am) It's hard to compare the older engines to new ones. My old '91 Escort gave me mid-30s MPG, but maybe newer engines can do so with lower emissions? Or with more power? It really doesn't seem like MPG has improved much over the past 20 years for any car.
#27 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [robertsmx] by nippononly Sep 15, 2007 (10:10 pm)
Replying to: robertsmx (Sep 13, 2007 12:43 pm) "One of my disappointments with Fit was that it didn't even meet the 1997+ Civic HX in fuel economy ratings much less beat it."   GAWD, you can sure say that again! I know this is an upright model with a hatchback, both of which increase aerodynamic drag and reduce fuel economy, but it is also lighter and lower-powered than the old HX, and produces more smog-forming emissions to boot! Talk about a step backwards. And the original '01 Fit was introduced in Japan after the last-gen Civic HX too.   This is their smallest model for sale in the U.S. IMO the next model should really stand out in emissions and fuel economy. If they want to have a performance trim, I would applaud that and there the line could slip a little bit on FE and emissions, but the bulk of the sales should be trims with top-of-their-class fuel economy.   Speaking of emissions, I was interested to note that the new Accord will be PZEV here in California for 4-cylinders AND V-6s. If they can do that for the Accord, they should be able to do it for the Fit also. Replies to this message: eldaino (Sep 20, 2007 11:43 am) nippononly (Sep 20, 2007 2:00 pm) robertsmx (Sep 20, 2007 2:48 pm)
#28 of 94 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [nippononly] by ifit Sep 19, 2007 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Aug 30, 2007 2:47 pm) I want a left foot rest. Scratch that, I need a left foot rest. Replies to this message: vcarreras (Sep 20, 2007 2:48 pm)
#29 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [nippononly] by eldaino Sep 20, 2007 (11:43 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 15, 2007 10:10 pm) to echo what bob said, we can't really gripe about newer, older engines but then go on to say what cars the fit pales in comparison to.   sure the fit is 'dirtier' and less fuel eficient than the hx, but it handles much better, has a more upscale interior, and is far more versatile. Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 20, 2007 2:00 pm) robertsmx (Sep 20, 2007 2:48 pm)
#30 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [eldaino] by nippononly Sep 20, 2007 (2:00 pm)
Replying to: eldaino (Sep 20, 2007 11:43 am) Yes, but this is Honda, the ENGINE company. Every successive generation of vehicles should exceed the last in engineering, IMO. More hp per liter, lower emissions, better fuel economy.   Besides, all we are talking about really is a wish list for the next gen. While the current Fit is a little disappointing to me, it still excels in its price class, and it IS six years old after all. Replies to this message: robertsmx (Sep 20, 2007 2:48 pm)
#31 of 94 Re: 35/45 mpg city/hwy [nippononly] by robertsmx Sep 20, 2007 (2:48 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 20, 2007 2:00 pm) Six years and three months (in two days) in fact.   But it is still a design that holds its own, especially inside and in driving dynamics.   While getting more HP/liter has been one of Honda's strengths, that is not why Honda is considered an ENGINE company. For that matter, the D16 in Civic HX wasn't as refined and was rated at "only" 117 HP.   Fit appears to be one of those cars that don't do well in EPA rating system, but deliver better mileage in reality. It might help Honda market the car even better (if there is enough production capacity) if they addressed EPA-rating-happy crowd too.   I think CVT makes more sense in the Fit than a 5AT (all other markets get CVT-7 or 5MT). But I won't be surprised to see 6-speed iShift transmission in the new version (currently offered only in European Civic).
#32 of 94 Re: 2009 Honda Fit [ifit] by vcarreras Sep 20, 2007 (2:48 pm)
Replying to: ifit (Sep 19, 2007 6:13 pm) Official PR images..   http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=710132
#33 of 94 First Drive by robertsmx Sep 20, 2007 (6:48 pm)
Edmunds has it. (Link)   ifit, based on pictures, you do get foot rest in the Fit.
#34 of 94 2009 Fit, No spare tire?! by tiff_c Sep 20, 2007 (9:28 pm)
I'm sorry but I think it's essential for a car to have a spare. just look at all the problems they have in the BMW forum with runflats. A fix it kit doesn't always work. I hope for the US market they include the spare tire even as an option. Too much construction going on and lots of flats nevermind unseen potholes etc... I think this would prevent me from buying the car. I wanted to consider the 1 series BMW but it has runflats and no spare so I will buy another AWD car with a spare tire for myself. You need a spare tire in many areas and trying to find an open station that can sell you a tire late at night isn't always easy. My wife clearly wants a a spare tire as do I. I see in pics that the Fit now has an armrest so that is good and I thought I saw a dead pedal also good but no spare??? Bad!

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