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Vans & Minivans Honda Odyssey Honda Odyssey Engine Ping, Detonation, Preingition issues
125 messages, Last post on Oct 22, 2009 at 6:32 PM
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Well everyone after fighting with HONDA for over a year, the state of California finally declared this van a lemon due to the pinging issue. Today the van was dropped off at my local dealearship and I collected my check. I am happy to say that we dont need to deal with this crap any longer. Some advice that helped me was to get your service manager to confirm the pinging and document it. That was the best evidence I had in my favor. Also make sure you give them 4-5 times to try and fix it. If it does not get fixed file a claim with the BBB. It worked for me. Some other posts stated that the BBB was sort of useless but it was pretty painless and they did help me out. I hope the rest of you all get your vans purchased back also.
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Replying to: hvacrman (Oct 21, 2008 7:22 pm) BTW - Congrats on your victory! Come back and let us know how your new ____ (Sienna?) works out. |
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Replying to: xinst (Sep 28, 2008 8:35 pm) Thanks much.
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Replying to: naam4ever (Nov 17, 2008 12:51 pm) http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-071.PDF I bought my new 08-EX three weeks ago and having the something. I drove it with the service tech and off-course he could not hear it and made me look like I’m crazy. Also my VIN number is newer than the VIN range under the TSB. Is your VIN within the range? I just put in it a full tank of premium gas and the knocking noise is almost %99 gone. That explains why when I test drove it I did not hear the noise because the dealer used premium fuel. So at this point I’m not sure if I should fight with them and let them mess with the new engine or that is just normal engine noise. |
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I'm heading to the dealership on Friday to have the knock sensor replaced on my 2007 Odyssey to correct (hopefully) excessive engine pinging.....I was wondering whether anyone else has had success (or a lack thereof) after having the knock sensor replaced. Thanks in advance.
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Replying to: neumie2000 (Feb 18, 2009 5:31 am) it is colder than heck and I dont have the windows down when I am driving. When I first got it done, it seemed to quiet it down. I will find out in the spring I guess. Here is a GREAT way to test it though. I found this method by accident when out with the service manager, and the Honda NA rep. trying to get them to hear the noise, (that no one could hear except fom myself and my wife) there is an underpass right around the corner from the dealership where I bought the odyssey. I sat in the underpass with the windows open and had one foot on the gas and one on the brake, and kind of line locked it. (except it wasnt for fun) That made the ping loud and clear. It was at that point when they said, OH, I hear it now... If you can find an enclosed space like that and do that, (hit the gas and brake at the same time) It will come out. I will go back there when it gets warm, and I have time and see if it is still doing it. I suspect it will. We really wish we went with the Toyota.
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Replying to: pingy (Feb 18, 2009 6:49 am) Thanks again. |
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| I had the service bulletin performed on Friday of last week, replacing the knock sensor. I am happy to report that it completely took care of the problem and the van is now 100% better. Prior to the replacement, I heard a distinct knock or ping regardless of the octane rating of the fuel I used (obviously, the higher the octane the better it was). The pinging was much worse during the summer months with use of the air conditioner. I generally heard the knock while driving up hill or when starting out from a standstill, especially on an incline. After replacement, using 87 octane, I tried everything I could to get the engine to ping again, to no avail. To anyone else out there with this issue, I absolutely suggest getting the service bulletin done, as it really seems to work. | |
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Replying to: mtm12345 (Jan 21, 2008 7:31 pm) Thanks Ed
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Replying to: ed1973 (May 03, 2009 7:26 am) i never got an answer from dealer on heavy fuel consumption. i now believe it is a problem with the area i live in, hills and city driving. i bought a new small car to get 27 mpg but found i could only get 21mpg at best. also another driver in my area driving a new minivan is only getting 13mpg as well. if i it like an electric car, very slow acceleration, i can get 15mpg. as far as your noise goes, i don't believe that sounds like the knock sensor many people are experiencing here. the knock that i had came only when the engine was very warm at 2500 rpm under strain. i had the earlier service bulletins performed and it went away, mine was not a knock sensor. the knock sensors are in later years and are limited to a range of vin numbers when the factory had a mis calibrated robot installing the sensor. if you have an 07 in those vin ranges they will replace your sensor. your issue, if it really is cam slack, could be a whole different story. depending on how willing you are to spend money on this issue you could have different options. i wonder if you have anything in your service record inquiring about this issue while the car was under warranty? even if you don't i would try to talk to the service managers at your local dealers and see if they will present your issue to the honda rep. in my experience i have gotten them to cover half the cost of a major paint flaw for a car i bought used that was long out of warranty. otherwise i see your options as: get it fixed yourself either at the dealer or independent shop, run it like it is and see what happens, or sell the vehicle. i would probably just run it like it is as i am guessing cam slack is a very major investigation cost, and replacement could be prohibitive. it might be cheaper if that were truly the case, to have an independent shop drop in a used engine from a totaled car. I am not sure how cam slack could effect the gas mileage. i am guessing if could go either way but would probably run roughly if it was effecting mileage. if the mileage was caused by undo friction of the shaft rubbing you could have early failure as it would wear it out. on the bright side this could just be something harmless, nothing to do with the cam at all. perhaps like mine it was just a loose knock in a random place in the engine that does no harm. and the mileage is just caused my stop and go traffic. i am amazed how heavy these vehicles are and how much energy it takes to get them moving. any hills, cold starts, braking and starting, just kills the mileage. hope this helps.
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