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#62 of 128
Pinging / Knocking by a4k
Sep 05, 2008 (7:28 pm)
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I have found a Service Bulletin for pinging noise..http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-017.PDF
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Re: Pinging / Knocking [a4k] by hvacrman
Sep 06, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: a4k (Sep 05, 2008 7:28 pm)

Great find except I think most of us are not having this problem idle. We are having this problem while driving under very little load on the motor. I have had the heat shields replaced once two knock sensors, four idle learning resets with no fix. Honda techline states it is a known problem and now to my surprise Honda has sent me a letter that nothing is wrong with the van and has no non conformities even though the tech line states it is a known problem. I see that the different departments do talk to each other otherwise they would not be sending out conflicting information. What the hell HONDA FIX IT OR BUY IT BACK, that is the new slogan. I started this forum for those who are interested to start another series of posts.
 
http://hondaodysseysucks.lefora.com/forum/category/all/page1/
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Re: Pinging / Knocking [a4k] by pcullen
Sep 06, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: a4k (Sep 05, 2008 7:28 pm)

As alarming as that issue is, it is definitely not the engine detonation/knocking/pinging that is being complained about on this thread. It is amazing how many Odyssey's that drive by me are also pinging. Just this morning, an '08 touring past me on a level road under light acceleration, doing about 25 mph, as I was bicycling, and it was pinging. One caveat though - I can't be sure that it is the heat shield issue or pinging, as both noises can be similar. However, the engine pinging clearly is present when going up a hill under load (heard with the windows down), which this van was not.
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Re: Pinging / Knocking [pcullen] by hvacrman
Sep 06, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: pcullen (Sep 06, 2008 8:45 am)

Thanks for the info pcullen. I have an 07 as noted prior. I have tried all brands and octanes with no change. I have also ran through several tanks of the best gas with still no change. My last idea was to run 110 octane race gas to see if it was infact octane related and still no change. What is weird is when you clear the computer and perform the idel learning per the owners manual it clears it up for a while. So it is for sure something with the computer / EFI tuning that changes the timing or something to that effect. I am not an expert on the tuning part but know what has made it better and or worse. I have a arbitration meeting coming up, the 2nd one for me. I will keep all posted to the outcome of this one. Thanks for all who contribute to this annoying issue.
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Honda Odyssey Engine Ping, Detonation, Preingition issues by naam4ever
Sep 16, 2008 (10:21 pm)
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Hello all, Im just another customer who got ripped off by Honda...bought a 08 EX with 10 miles only. Started hearing the pings at abt a 100mi or so. Dint know what it was just like everyone else so I took to my local dealer. 1st mech heard it loud and clear...agreed with me but when we got back to the shop he denied it...I thought this guy was joking. Anywayz, the srv mgr and a 2nd mech confirmed the noise. Gave me the good ole line abt how normal it is. The ping continued for a while almost everyday. But now its like maybe once a 1wk..but its still there. Im using reg gas and nothing else done to the van. The only thing different I've done is stop filling gas at BJs wholesale club...it maybe just really poor quality cheap gas at BJs.
I do agree with yall on this engine problem and sympathize with many of you who have gone thru a lot of hardships with this van. But, Im not the type of person who is gonna sit quitely on this issue and none of u should either because this is ur hard earned $$ on the line which Honda has decided to play with. Here's my 2 cents on hitting Honda where it hurts. The reason Honda doesn't care abt us right now is because we are a small minority on this forum and some more like this. The majority are new customers who have no clue unless they are looking at our forum before they decide to purchase or not...therefore Honda is enjoying there great sales per quarter. The point is that we need to get our voice out there by using the power of www...now I dont know abt u guyz but I can right now send a mass email out to a 100 active email boxes with this Honda issue. IF enough of you participate Im predicting in 90 days apprx over a 100K ++ ppl will be aware of this issue across U.S and Canada...and trust me Honda will find out. Here's another thing, Im gonna cc Honda America and Canada on this email to show them what we can do if they dont fix this issue very soon....to be cont on item #4. 1.) we are already filling complaints with our local dealer and Im sure they are communicating with Honda..but maybe Honda doesn't care. 2.) File a complaint on the website http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov ...like someone suggested earlier but I dont know how affective this is gonna be. 3.) Practice the lemon law and file a class action...requires time and $$...u may get some of ur $$ back if u win..maybe. 4.) I will take the time to create a firey letter to Honda abt this particular problem and others which are being disscussed in other Honda forums. I'll run the letter by my attorney for some legal terms. When the letter is ready I will then share it on this forum and if u are ok with it then share ur email with me...i will then email all my contact and u guyz. From that point on all Odyssey owners will print/sign and move it fwd...non Odyssey owners will just do us a favor and fwd the email to everyone they know. Its past 1am here on the East Coast right now..gotta get some sleep. Pls give me some feed back on this forum and or email me directly at eric61775hotmail.com.....sorry abt all this long reading u had to do...thanks.
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Re: Honda Odyssey Engine Ping, Detonation, Preingition issues [naam4ever] by hvacrman
Sep 17, 2008 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: naam4ever (Sep 16, 2008 10:21 pm)

Naam4ever - I am in ! (local467yahoo.com). A FYI to all on this topic. This is a rumor at this point and has not been 100% confirmed but Honda's regional service manager stated that Honda is planning a new TSB release in a few months to address this issue. I have been fighting for a little over a year and they finally admitted it is a serious issue and they working on finalizing the TSB before letting it loose into the public. We will shortly see if this is true. I guess this means no more knock sensor replacements HAHAHAH.
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Re: Honda Odyssey Engine Ping, Detonation, Preingition issues [hvacrman] by pcullen
Sep 17, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: hvacrman (Sep 17, 2008 6:06 am)

Confirmed!!!! Here's the bulletin at last: http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-071.PDF. I'm on the phone with my dealer as I write this!!
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Re: Same as everyone else [annoyedowner] by pingy
Sep 17, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: annoyedowner (Jun 27, 2008 4:10 am)

Annoyed owner, are you still there?
You bought at Scott right?
If so, let me know if you are still there.
I had a meeting with Scott this week.....
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Re: Honda Odyssey Engine Ping, Detonation, Preingition issues [pcullen] by mommobile2
Sep 17, 2008 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: pcullen (Sep 17, 2008 11:36 am)

I'm so confused. They're saying to replace the knock sensor? Isn't that what most people have tried that DIDN'T work? So why are we happy about this bulletin? Is it because Honda is at least admitting a problem?
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by pcullen
Sep 17, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Having searched this thread, you'll see cases where replacing the knock sensor either did not help or cured the problem. Now in the case of it not helping the issue, I have to wonder whether the dealers have actually replaced the sensor in some cases, or have determined that there's no fault code sent by the sensor to the engine computer, therefore, they dont' feel justified in actually replacing it - they don't want to just start replacing stuff because of the cost - and are left with no other options. When I brought my Ody in to the dealer a couple of months ago, I asked the mechanic to check the knock sensor but he said there were no error codes so he didn't replace it. Check out what Jyro's saying on an ody club forum thread about this link title It sounds convincing to me. Though what puzzles me is that if the claim in the bulletin "The knock sensor may have been damaged during engine assembly" is true, then how has it happened in so many cases? What is it about their assembly line procedure that could account for the sensors getting damaged so often? In any case, Honda has put out a bulletin for this and it can't hurt to have the dealer perform the service. What stands to get hurt is the engine and the resalue value if I don't act.

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