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427 messages, Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 19, 2008 2:24 pm) Thanks for the technical details, I thought that possibly the enlarged lights were a nod to the four headlight configuration heritage of the XJ and S Type et. al. Maybe a midlife refresh for the XF will allow some re sculpting of the front.
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 19, 2008 3:17 pm) Here are some numbers straight off my dealer worksheet last night. MSRP was reduced by $250!!!!! Which I was told wont happen anywhere. Premium Luxary at about $59,000 (after $250 discount) (there is also a gas guzzler tax here for about $1440 not sure if that is accross the US) 5k drive off (including tags and first payment) 50% residual 36 month 36k miles .0018 Money Factor (about 1/2 the price of Jag Credit.) This was through US Bank, the dealer is using Jag, US Bank and Chase. USBank is by far the cheapest. $973 a month taxes included (7.75% sales tax rate in San Diego county) I have to admit the looks are amazing and drive is very very nice. There must be thousands of 5 series, E Class and CL Class on the streets in Southern California. I figure the monthly is worth it to be unique. There is no other car that looks anything like it... should be less than 1,000 of them here in the next 12 months. With a population of 4+Mil it will be unique. That being said, has anyone done better than these #s? I sign the lease today
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 19, 2008 2:24 pm) |
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Replying to: sddriver1 (Mar 21, 2008 5:49 am)
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Replying to: random987 (Mar 21, 2008 6:43 am) We have been going with US bank for most of our Range Rover Sport and LR3 leases since Land Rover doesn't offer enough support for those models through LRCG. US Bank also does not include property tax so it makes the payments lower or more inline with other leasing companies.
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Replying to: sddriver1 (Mar 21, 2008 5:49 am) Mine, for 36 months, 10.5K miles was $1,210 a month, but it was only $2,500 drive off cost, and was for the supercharged model, which is about $4K more than the price of the one you're getting...plus, mine includes county property taxes, which is about $4,000 over 3 years. So, if I factor in a $5,000 drive off like you, and take out the property tax (ie, I pay on my own), then my equivalent rate is about $1,030 vs. your $973. BTW...you can get a 550i, same price, same term, $2,500 drive off for $990 month. Or a BMW 650i convertible for $1,330 month (that's almost $30,000 more car than Jag XF...not sure how BMW can lease things this low). |
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 21, 2008 6:55 am) The reason BMW sells so many vehicles in the highline market is they give them away with inflated residuals that lower customers payments by 150 - 200/ month. BMW = ultimate lease deal Not the ultimate driving machine. There's no way these cars are worth that after lease. They get sent to the auctions and BMW financial takes the hit. BMW has had 35 plus years in the US market to build their brand and financial strength. They can afford to do as a company. It's worth 100-150mo not to be like everybody else and drive a differnt car. I'd pay extra to drive the XF. The XF's interior is far superior to the 5 series.
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Replying to: rjlaero (Mar 21, 2008 3:54 pm) So if a BMW dealership leases 100 new BMWs one month they might be expected to retain 50 to 75 of those BMWs when they come off of lease. If they don't meet their goals then BMW cuts the dealer out of certain special programs and bonus money. |
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| I know that the initial demand has been very good, so there will be no screaming lease deals. But I was hoping Jaguar would try to "compete" to the business guy who likes to lease his cars for 2-3 years, then get something new. BMW, Infiniti, Audi, Lexus etc. all have better lease offerings that Jaguar. At least set a reasonable residual and money factor (especially with interest rates so low right now). So, even though the regular XF is lower in price than the 535i, the lease is 200/m more than the 535. I test drove the new 535 last week and I really like it. I am going to test drive the XF next week, but I can't see how I will like it enough to justify the extra $$$. | |
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Replying to: random987 (Mar 22, 2008 1:19 pm) 1) 2008, CLS550, Black, P2 Package, IPOD, Parktronic, and AMG Sport Package. $2,500 drive off cost, $1,060/mo, 27 months. 2) 2008/9 Supercharged XF, Liquid Silver $2,500 drive off, $1,338/mo, 24 months. The sticker on the CLS was about $81,000, but they marked it down to about $73,000 for the lease. Jaguar is not discounting its leases at all, so they are at full MSRP of $62,975. Then, CLS has the lease further subsidized by MB, better money factor and residual, so it ends up nearly $300 month less....for a more expensive car. I drove both and love the XF. It has more technology that the CLS, but the CLS (despite lower HP) feels much quicker...it snaps you back in your seat whereas the XF never really gave that feeling.....not a car expert, but I think the torque/hp ratio or something is much better on the CLS. CLS rides smoother too. And, well it's a Benz, and one you don't see too much of vs. the E, C, etc. Would have loved to go with the XF, but you'd have to be a complete idiot to take that lease deal when the CLS and 550i both have much better lease rates, by hundreds a month. They tried to tell me that XF is exclusive and few people will have them, but for that kind of rate I can see why few people will have them. The XF is better for buying right now vs. leasing. They will eventually have to lower these rates. It doesn't bode to well for Jaguar, and in the midst of an ownership change where it's rumored some that Tata will flip Jaguar off soon after the sale. That, first model year, and insane lease rates means the the best action is to hold off on this. Sit back and see what happens, then move in if the rates get better. For now, anyone shopping an XF would be well-served checking out the CLS or 550i. CLS is also a good deal as they are trying to move them before the 2009 comes out in about 2 months, and that car has really no major changes from the 2008 (2 bar grill instead of 4; led taillights; slight interior changes). When my CLS lease it up, mabye the XF refresh at that time will finally solve the headlight heating issues and get them closer to teh XF-concept car, thus making it a much more beautiful car (and maybe tone down on all the "jaguar jewelry" as they told they call it....the excessive use of chrome). For sale: One new, never usued XF keychain; One new, never used Jaguar travel coffee mug (fits in XF). |
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