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2009 Jaguar XF

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Re: Prices Paid [mentir] by mentir
Mar 18, 2008 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: mentir (Mar 18, 2008 3:32 pm)

No nitpicks from the driving experience. I came in with a pretty high opinion of the car from just driving the n/a model and left the s/c feeling the same way. Steering felt great. I didn't push the engine too hard since the car had all of 50 miles on it and they were trying to limit people from taking it out for a joyride. I drive an XJR, and for what its worth, the s/c 4.2 is very responsive no matter how you drive it, but you don't really feel the full neck-snapping effect until you really stomp the pedal down past its natural springy point. I'm assuming the XF behaves the same way, only with the improved steering it's going to feel much more nimble like you'd expect a true sport sedan to. Now I just need to let an inventory build up so that I can deal on one.
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Re: Lease rates? [random987] by lsleelee
Mar 19, 2008 (12:29 am)
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Replying to: random987 (Mar 18, 2008 8:40 pm)

note at the bottom of your rate schedule : "add...3% for 10K mi/yr..."
 
Those are the ones he was given.
 
What I'm really curious about is what the buy rate is on that 30 month lease.
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Re: Lease rates? [lsleelee] by rjlaero
Mar 19, 2008 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: lsleelee (Mar 19, 2008 12:29 am)

It's the money rate factors and not the residuals making the payments high.
 
X those by 2400 and it equates to over 8% interest.
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Re: XF Lease Rates....terrible [peedy1] by british_rover
Mar 19, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: peedy1 (Mar 18, 2008 6:20 pm)

Having the property tax rolled into the lease payment is how all leasing that goes through Ford Motor Credit works. Land Rover does the same thing and it does save you a significant amount of property tax over the course of the lease. The jag dealer should be able to break out the cost of the property tax separate from the lease I do that for our Land Rover leases. Just for example to give you an idea what the property tax per month would be on that XF lease in CT at a selling price of 63K the property tax would be 63 dollars a month. Over two years there is no way that the state of CT would only charge you 1,500 dollars a month in property tax. I used to live in VA and I am sure that VA would charge a lot more then 1250 dollars over two years for property tax on a 63K dollar car.
 
Those residuals and money factors look just like the residuals and money factors that the Range Rover sport had two and a half years ago. They had strong residuals but very high money factors. You have to keep in mind that the CLS is basically the same platform as the E-Class. How many E-class derivatives does Merc sell worldwide in a year? I don't know but counting the CLS, CLK, and all the other versions of the E-class versions. Just in the US last year Merc sold 72,000 E, CLS and CLK models and that is a lot of volume to spread incentives around.
 
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/01/03/074302.html
 
Jag doesn't sell that many cars in total for the US so they can't afford to put the massive incentives that Mercedes and BMW do.
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Re: XF Lease Rates....terrible [british_rover] by laurasdada
Mar 19, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 19, 2008 8:39 am)

Actually, I believe that the CLK is based on the (prior gen) C class, not E... But you're right, they do sell a few E Classes around the globe.
 
Looking forward to some more driving reviews of the XF...
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Re: XF Lease Rates....terrible [laurasdada] by british_rover
Mar 19, 2008 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 19, 2008 9:22 am)

 
 
I just looked it up the CLK is actually based on the C-Class and not the E-Class. Its just the styling of the CLK that through me off.
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Re: XF Lease Rates....terrible [british_rover] by laurasdada
Mar 19, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 19, 2008 9:31 am)

I had considered buying a CLK, but the (exterior) styling threw me off, too! The XF looks pretty good but, like the XK, the front end may be its weakest link (imo, of course). A bit too blunt, no doubt due to European pedestrian standards. Takes a bit of the overall "sleekness" away.
 
Still am most desirous of an XK, however. XF, we'll see. Took a quick peek at one last week. Felt instantly comfy in the driver's seat. A clean, modern look to the interior. Won't be an early adoptor, though. Let's see if the new electronic "handshake" presents any challenges, among other reasons...
 
Not to mention the stock market is making me retirement much further down the road...
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XF vs. 550i vs. CLS leases by peedy1
Mar 19, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Me again.
Okay, now the BMW dealers is quoting me a better rate as well on teh 550i, which prices out to be about the same as teh XF (though this 550i does not have the sport appearance package.
 
$2,500 drive off, 36 mo, 10.5K miles:
 
XF: $1,115 (in MD, so no prop. taxes to muddle the picture).
550i: $990
 
Or CLS550, same terms except 27 months: $1,066
 
Which would anyone here take?
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Re: XF vs. 550i vs. CLS leases [peedy1] by laurasdada
Mar 19, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: peedy1 (Mar 19, 2008 12:21 pm)

I'd choose the car/lease that best met my needs/wants/desires. If $ is more important than the actual car you will be driving for the next 36 months, the BMW. But, if it's not the car you really want...
 
What car do you really want to lease? Each choice, of course, has its own merits/demerits.
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Re: XF vs. 550i vs. CLS leases [laurasdada] by alltorque
Mar 19, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 19, 2008 1:12 pm)

Surely it's Jaguar for the heart; Germans for the head.
 
Do you want to love your car or merely admire its qualities ?

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