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Re: What do you think of this lease offer? [texasguy8] by rten
Jun 21, 2008 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: texasguy8 (Jun 21, 2008 11:35 am)

Hi texasguy,
 
It's interesting to see that Jag is starting to deal on these cars, which I think are the car to beat in this category over the next few years. I couldn't wait, so I recently made a deal on another E350 4matic, which have EXTREMELY aggressive lease rates ( .72% equivalent lending rate - no, that is not a typo), and heavy reduction from MSRP. So, it's essentially free financing on a heavily discounted car.
 
About your deal, it's looks straight forward, but your monthly payment is based on a monthly cost of depreciation that subtracts the residual from the MSRP, and it should be based on the residual subtracted from your net CAP COST. This means your net payment should be $1034/month, assuming an 8.25% sales tax rate. And, your financing rate based on this is 7.68%, which sounds like Jag's financing terms, and I hear that US Bank goes a couple of points lower. Otherwise, your financing cost must be much higher if the depreciation was calculated from the CAP COST.
 
Remember, your final lease contract will only state dollar figures, not percentages, so the correct cost of the lease is irrelevant once you've agreed to a final price. the percentages and numbers can be manipulated and played with to the dealers or leasing company's advantage.
 
Other than that, the XF is a beautiful car, and I hope it lives up to it's promise, and I'm sure you'll enjoy the car at whatever price you pay. My motto is that you can always get a better deal, and you can always get a much worse deal.
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Re: What do you think of this lease offer? [rten] by texasguy8
Jun 21, 2008 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: rten (Jun 21, 2008 3:45 pm)

Thanks to both of you. I was aware of the difference in the 2 cars and that made my price even more out of line. I was not aware of the point you made about how they calculated the numbers. I am going to see if they use US Bank. If not and I can't get the monthly down considerably, I am moving on. If I get any new numbes, I will post them to let you eagle eyes look them over. Thanks again.
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Re: Mileage???? [donfenn] by phantom5
Jun 21, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: donfenn (Jun 14, 2008 10:38 pm)

$899 with 5k down, $1035/month with $0 down. And the XF is the car that is supposed to save jag. what am I missing here?? I live in Scottsdale Arizona where every other car seems to be a luxury car from BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes etc. you get the idea. I'm not sure how long the XF has been out for but I've seen a total of 1 XF on the road. There are two Jag dealerships here and I see Supply is not a problem but I see NO demand for these cars when BMW and Mercedes, lexus and infiniti all being very aggressive with their leases.
 
Again, I'm Jag's new Target, I'm 39 and will be in the market for a new car in 5 months. I never would of consider Jaguar until I saw the one and only XF driving down the road. But until TATA motor gets inline with their leases I will go else where. In this luxury class the choices are many. My current car 06 navi. fully loaded sale price was $54k. 36 month lease 15k/miles year $2500 total out of pocket and $762/month. My previous car was in the first year of production Hummer H2 sale price $61K and was out of pocket $3800 for 24 months 15k/miles per year $849/month.
So I dont understand where Jag is coming from when they like the other proven companies are not competing with the leases out there. I can lease a 2008 535i Loaded, Prem, sport, navi, etc for $2500 out of pocket and $725/month for 24 months 12k/miles year. Yes the XF is a beautiful car and I understand the law of supply and demand. I see the supply but where is the demand??
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Re: Mileage???? [phantom5] by texasguy8
Jun 22, 2008 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: phantom5 (Jun 21, 2008 7:19 pm)

Phantom5, you are right about the lease terms. I have been in 2 Jag dealers and there is a lot of activity with these cars. I haven't seen 1 on the road, but the dealers have a very limited supply on hand in Dallas and I have seen some sold while I was in the dealerships. The 2 big differences between these 2 leases are the MF and how much they came off the MSRP. I think xn got a good deal. Mine stinks. I won't consider buying this car unless they get the monthy down a lot. I have a Mercedes S now and I want a different car. Mercedes has a good deal on the E class now, but I want something different. If this doesn't work out, I am going to see what I can do with a 2009 Lincoln MKS. I am still having trouble taking the numbers they gave me and running them through a lease calculator and making them come out the way they did. I know TX makes us pay tax on the entire cost of the vehicle, but even using that calculation, the numbers don't work out. I swore I would never get in a situation where I sign a deal at the dealership without having hte numbers up front to carefully review. When Monday rolls around, I will talk to them again and either get better numbers or move on.
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Re: Mileage???? [texasguy8] by phantom5
Jun 22, 2008 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: texasguy8 (Jun 22, 2008 4:08 am)

Hi Tex, Please keep us informed about the numbers. I think the Jag is a beautiful and exciting car. Kind of looks like a >>poor man's<< Aston Martin. Good Luck!! In The AZ Republic Newspaper, Jag is advertising MSRP $50545 39 month lease $649/month plus tax $3995 Total out 12k/miles year.
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My lease detail with XF Lux by gobruin1010
Jun 25, 2008 (2:41 pm)
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Hello, I've just got my XF Lux 3 days ago and since I was able to negotiated the deal based on all the info here I would like to share my deal. I live in Orange county in Socal and I was able to obtain this deal through US bank.
 
Model: XF lux with navigation.
msrp: $51500
gross cap cost: $47559
down: $3500 (could of been $3000 if I wanted the tan interior vs charcoal which wasn't in stock)
residual: $26252
monthly payment: $750.87 including tax
term: 36 months with 15k/year
acq fee: $795 termination fee:395
 
This deal took several weeks of emails from3 different dealers and was really close to purchase a Audi A5 instead but I'm happy with the decision to lease XF. Hope this helps. .
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Re: My lease detail with XF Lux [gobruin1010] by texasguy8
Jun 26, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: gobruin1010 (Jun 25, 2008 2:41 pm)

Gobruin
What was your money factor? Was the $3500 down a cap reduction or was it to pay your taxes? In Texas, we must pay sales tax on the cost of the selling price of the vehicle (not the residual). This increases our lease costs a little. I am still working with dealers here and I was ready to sign the papers next week until I saw your figures. I just can't get anyone here to really get aggressive with the numbers. 2 dealers just stopped calling me back. The seem to be sticking together in this area and keeping the prices high.
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Re: My lease detail with XF Lux [gobruin1010] by SergeyM
Jun 26, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: gobruin1010 (Jun 25, 2008 2:41 pm)

Wow! You've got it for $213 below invoice. Congratulations!
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Value of multiple security deposits?? by texasguy8
Jun 27, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Does anyone know how much each multiple security deposit will reduce the MF for a 2009 XF? I have been told by the dealer that I am working with that each multiple security deposit reduces the MF by .0006, which is on .144%. This is through Jaguar credit.
Thanks
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Re: My lease detail with XF Lux [gobruin1010] by mhig77
Jul 05, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: gobruin1010 (Jun 25, 2008 2:41 pm)

Hi Bruin,
 
I live in the OC also. Do you mind telling me what dealer you got that deal from>
 
Thanks,

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