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Sedans Jaguar XF 2009 Jaguar XF
428 messages, Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM
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Replying to: SergeyM (Apr 16, 2008 10:15 am) 1. Handling - I agree with SergeyM, it wasn't close. There is something about BMW's feeling of connectivity to the road that has not been duplicated by the British (or the Japanese). I had the sense of being connected to the road and looking forward to the next corner. The Jaguar's handling characteristics were similar to my current car the Infiniti M45 Sport. I enjoyed driving it and it felt safe and secure on the road, but my enjoyment level was not as great as when driving the 535i (with Sport and Sport Auto). This was probably the most telling factor for me that led me to the 535. I loved driving it. 2. Ride - Very similar. A push. 3. Seats - not as good as the BMW's comfort seats. The BMW's seats have the ability to articulate the upper portion of the seat to conform to your upper body. It truly makes a big difference. 4. Engine - I would call this a push. However, I really like the power from the turbo charged 3.5. It is a great engine. No lag, plenty of power. In fact, it is only .2 seconds slower than the 550 from 0-60. 5. Interior - this is tough - I liked the fit and finish of the Jaguar, but there were a number of items that seemed gimmicky, namely the vent covers and the gear "knob". When you start the car, the vent covers roll open, like the car is waking up. Some folks may experience a wow factor at the test drive, but I can't see this as being anything important in the long term (and another item to break down). The knob gear shifter was interesting, but seemed out of place in the sport car. 6. Exterior - the XF wins hands down. It really is a work of art. Ian Callum, the designer, used his experiences with with Aston Martin and the XK to make a beautiful car. 5. Price - I am really disappointed with the lease packages from Jaguar. There are many of us who play the "lease game" on these types of cars (sport sedans) and with 535i with a MSRP of 57,000 would have a 200-300 lower monthly payment that the Jag with a lower MSRP. So, I decided on the 535 given the better handling characteristics and the lease-friendly numbers. Hopefully when my lease runs out in 3 years there will be a more improved XF, or I will splurge on the XK convertible. By that time, hopefully, the residuals on the XF or XK will be reasonable. |
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 10, 2008 1:12 pm) |
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Replying to: random987 (Apr 16, 2008 10:49 am)
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Replying to: peedy1 (Apr 16, 2008 5:55 pm) I can't really speak to perception of acceleration, since that's an intangeable that is going to vary by person to person. |
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Replying to: peedy1 (Apr 16, 2008 5:55 pm) I found the throttle in the CLS very jerky in sport mode and typical mercees soft in regular mode. The XF you drove probably had its adaptive transmission in the softest setting. A good hard 30 minute test drive over over 20 miles would probably reset it to a more aggressive setting. I drive in supercharged range rovers all the time and they don't have any of the jerky throttle that you are complaining about. They use the same engine as the XF SC but make between 20 and 30 less horsepower while hauling around a lot more weight. You would think if any vehicle had throttle lag it would be a nearly 6,000 lbs 390 horsepower supercharger range rover sport. |
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Peedy1, Why do you post on the Jaguar XF forum so much. Is it the fact that you are unhappy with your MB CLS550, so you have to post messages on the site everyday to discourage other buyers. Please stop! We all know that you want a XF. I just bought a Midnight XF SC with Spice interior and it is drop dead gorgeous. I believe you live in the DC area. If you want me to. I will let you borrow mine one day,so you'll know what you missed out on. Sike. BTW, I buy and never lease. If I want to rent a car which is what a lease really is. I'll go to AVIS and get me a rental car. IMO
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Replying to: random987 (Apr 16, 2008 10:49 am) Not as connected as an Audi or BMW, but maybe not as floaty and lazy-boy like as a Lexus.
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 18, 2008 10:48 am) |
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 18, 2008 10:48 am) |
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Replying to: chosenone76 (Apr 17, 2008 3:15 pm) And no, Englewood, NJ...you want to track me down because you have buyer's remorse, or are you some worried exec. from Tata? If you love your car so much, you should be out driving it. I'm checking in TH to see the good, bad, and ugly w/ the car since, as I've said, I'm interested in where it will be in a year or two and will consider it then. So you can bring your ORANGE interior 2009 XF to me, or I’ll bring the 2010 XF to you, and we’ll see which you like better – if I choose to go that route…you are the “tester” for me. I think these companies make much more leasing cars than selling them, so TATA will eventually have to bring the rates to reality once the frenzied “early adopters” start to fade and they need to push more cars. Assuming so, and looking forward to an even better engine, it will be a much better car down the road – for leasing, or maybe even buying for those (like you it appears) who want to hold a car and save some cash over the long term. I can’t hold a car a long time unless, like the M6, it’s a high end conv., or a classic…though the 2010 SRT-8 Challenger, 7.0 hemi 600HP is interesting - maybe not refined, but it’ll be blowing the doors off all the XF, CLS, and many others, and a fraction of the cost! Well, this is Peedy1 over and out. I’ll check back next year this time for an update. Cheers.
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