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Re: xf-sc test drive [peedy1] by laurasdada
Apr 09, 2008 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: peedy1 (Apr 09, 2008 10:59 am)

Given the history of British Electronics (Lucas: The Prince of Darkness), this is my main worry with the XF. I know Jag quality has improved, but the rising shift knob, the twirling vents: problems waiting to happen.
 
That's why I, too, will wait until later in 2009 to consider the XF. Let 'em work out the bugs. But I'll take an XK right now, thank you...
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Re: xf-sc test drive [laurasdada] by mentir
Apr 10, 2008 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 09, 2008 12:56 pm)

I think any concerns about electrical problems due to 'british history' are totally unfounded. Otherwise, you'd also have to denounce Audi for their alleged unintended acceleration problem, and keep away from Mercedes because their quality is sub-par, etc etc.
 
The XF doesn't have some sort of revolutionary new and untested electrical system. It's the next generation DENSO system that is used in the XK, and previously in the S-Type. I'm sure a quick google would turn up the other manufacturers who use the same system. I tend to discount the one post I've seen about the gear selector malfunctioning because A) you can apply pressure to the top of the knob, while turning the knob to the desired gear in the event it doesn't rise, B) any issues would be fixed under warrenty.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [mentir] by nyeagle
Apr 10, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: mentir (Apr 10, 2008 7:05 am)

As an MB owner who has tested the XF and likes the looks and feel of the car I am having a hard time getting comfortable with the reliability issues concerning the brand. I don't care if the issues are under warranty, I don't want the hassle of problems. I could have it with another brand, but I feel it is less likely. I think I will let some time pass and see the experiences of other XF owners.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [mentir] by laurasdada
Apr 10, 2008 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: mentir (Apr 10, 2008 7:05 am)

My comments, while focusing on electronics (which can be a bugaboo for any mfg.) were more in line with my "don't buy a first model year" car. Especially European or Domestic. Just mho, though.
 
While running errands at lunch tody, saw a shiny, black XKR coupe. Goodness, me oh my, I thought that I might propose marriage to it...
 
Also, I saw my first XF on the road, it crossed the road I was on while waiting upon a red light. It was black, or very dark blue, and somewhat surprisingly to me, didn't really catch my eye. Maybe it was the dark color?
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Re: xf-sc test drive [laurasdada] by mentir
Apr 10, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 10, 2008 12:28 pm)

I wholehartedly agree with the first model year rule, but that's regardless of what brand you're talking about since no car launch is perfect and manufacturers will address quality or fit/finish issues in the production run as they arise.
 
I guess I can only speak to my own personal experience as my car (XJR) has been exceedingly reliable to own. And for the record, I too will be letting some time pass before considering buying an XF for the new model bugs to be worked out; not because it's a Jag, but because it's a new model.
 
Oops, I see we're getting sidetracked by talking about the car rather than CLS lease rates.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [nyeagle] by rjlaero
Apr 10, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: nyeagle (Apr 10, 2008 8:59 am)

A Mercedes owner who's worried about quality and reliablity of Jag? Maybe your car has been perfect, but that's far from the norm.
 
There isn't 1 car in MB entire line-up that's recommend by CR. That's pretty embarassing in 2008. MB's prestige and reliabilty have done a complete 180 over the last decade. They aren't what they were in the 80's and 90's.
 
Audi's A3, A4, and A6 are all recommended, and BMW has several cars that are recommended as well.
 
Jag has done welll in JD power over the last couple years in initial quality. The XK was a brand new car last year, and overall it did quite pretty good for reliability.
 
If I had to buy an E class or an new XF, I'd take my chances with the Jag all day long.
 
When it comes to lease payments, $150 /mo sounds like a lot. But why spend 800 on a car you don't really want. I'd pay 950 all day long vs 800 if something really made me smile and I wanted it.
 
I was in an 80k MB CLS recently, and it was one of the more uncomfortable cars I've been in. Chopped windows w/ poor visibility, poor use of space, and way too cheap looking materials for a MB product.
 
Just remember, it's cheap to lease for a reason.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [mentir] by laurasdada
Apr 11, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: mentir (Apr 10, 2008 12:53 pm)

Thanks for the post (re: reliability). That's what I'm always looking for here, real life reviews of the cars that I'm interested in. I have been hearing good things about Jags of the last few years, and as the XK and XF are on my list for next car, good to hear that they are being well built.
 
I actually broke my first model year rule with my last car and it didn't bite me at all. A few known first model year issues (electric, of course...) covered under warranty. But out of warranty, no issues. I did sell it after 5.5 years and 67k miles of ownership because, after all, it was a CHRYSLER! 300M, really enjoyed it. Marginal buile quality, but reliable...
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Re: xf-sc test drive [laurasdada] by rjlaero
Apr 12, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Apr 11, 2008 9:27 am)

Dealers are sold out and backordered of supercharged cars in some places.
 
I think Jag was almost too agressive on Supercharged pricing. There isn't any car in the market for just over 62k w/ 420 hp and all the futures the XF has for the money.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [rjlaero] by laurasdada
Apr 12, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 12, 2008 11:23 am)

Good for Jag, good for us...!
 
Jag has to sell cars, they can't screw up the pricing. IMO, of course.
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Re: xf-sc test drive [rjlaero] by british_rover
Apr 12, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 12, 2008 11:23 am)

I got to drive a XF for the first time Thursday and I was impressed. The handling came very close to the last 5 series I drove and that 5 series had 19 inch wheels with the sport package.
 
The XF rode much better then the 5 series and I drove them over the same type of roads so I could compare them on equal ground. The XF I drove only had the 18 inch wheels so I am sure a 19 Inch wheeled car would be about equal to the handling of the 5 series and a SC XF with the dynamic suspension would surpass a five series.
 
I could adjust the driver's seat to a position where I would be comfortable driving and still sit in the rear seats comfortably. I like the little divot they cut out of the roof/headliner to give an inch or two of extra headroom. I am five foot 11 with shortish legs and a longer torso so someone a littler taller then me but more evenly proportioned would fit even better.
 
The driver's seat didn't look very comfortable but it was very comfortable. Just the right amount of firmness but I would have liked some additional side bolstering. I assume the SC XF would have that.
 
After driving the XF I priced out a 550i with the same features and came out to a MSRP of $71,195.
 
Even a SC XF doesn't break 66,000.
 
The XF I drove only had a MSRP of around 55,950. That is a freaking steal.

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