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#19 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 30, 2007 (6:05 am)
Now why does everyone think R-12 is hard to get ahold of? A licensed shop can just order it up like they would a pizza. They still make R-12, they just don't sell it OTC to the common riff-raff like us.
Well I think that's just it...we can't just walk into AutoZone and buy the stuff for a buck or two a can like our forefathers did. Sure, mechanics can still get it, I guess if you're licensed. Isn't the stuff something like 90 bucks a pound these days?
#20 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [andre1969]
Aug 30, 2007 (6:11 am)
Forefathers? Geeze, I feel old! I remember walking into Pep Boys and getting cans of R-12 for 99 cents!!! The stuff is like gold these days.
#21 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [andre1969]
Aug 30, 2007 (6:33 am)
I think the price is going up because they're relying only on old stocks and recycling. I don't think they're making it now.
#22 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [texases]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 30, 2007 (7:56 am)
Well you could be right about that...I only know for sure that any licensed shop can order it up right away. Many have it right on hand. And yes, it is very expensive. But not as expensive as trying to convert.
Sep 02, 2007 (7:00 am)
Is still being mfrd. in mexico and is quite the hot
"import" being smuggled over the border !
Thankfully I purchased 6 30 lb. canisters several years
back for $99 bucks each before the US ban took effect.
I have 2 bar/rest./motel operations (and cars too)with plenty of r-12 required equipment.
Sure comes in handy and cheap too !
#24 of 48 Re: R-12 [hotel1]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 02, 2007 (8:11 am)
No harm done if you evacuate the systems properly and don't let the R12 into the air. I'd check those Mexico supplies carefully. Sometimes they put propane in the tanks! (Oddly enough, it sorta works, but...gulp..)
#25 of 48 Re: R-12 [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 02, 2007 (9:17 am)
Guess there's a few more years for Mexico:
"However, the Montreal Protocol set two schedules for the phase out of ODS—1996 for developed countries and 2010 for developing countries—and unwittingly created a black market in the process. Automobile refrigerants like chlorofluorocarbon 12 (CFC-12), also known as R-12, went from a legal price of $4 per pound to a black market price of $30 a pound in the US."
#26 of 48 Re: R-12 [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 12, 2007 (3:54 pm)
Heck yea LP/propane gas is/can be used as a refrigerant
(spl). RV fridges use it.............
#27 of 48 Re: R-12 [hotel1]
Sep 13, 2007 (2:21 pm)
Well, they run on it, instead of electricity. I'm not sure what the 'working fluid' that does the cooling is.