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'69 GTX and '66 Satellite converts - record prices?

48 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2007 at 12:57 PM

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#19 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Aug 30, 2007 (6:05 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 29, 2007 7:17 pm)
Now why does everyone think R-12 is hard to get ahold of? A licensed shop can just order it up like they would a pizza. They still make R-12, they just don't sell it OTC to the common riff-raff like us.
 
Well I think that's just it...we can't just walk into AutoZone and buy the stuff for a buck or two a can like our forefathers did. Sure, mechanics can still get it, I guess if you're licensed. Isn't the stuff something like 90 bucks a pound these days?

#20 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [andre1969] by lemko

Aug 30, 2007 (6:11 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 30, 2007 6:05 am)
Forefathers? Geeze, I feel old! I remember walking into Pep Boys and getting cans of R-12 for 99 cents!!! The stuff is like gold these days.

#21 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [andre1969] by texases

Aug 30, 2007 (6:33 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Aug 30, 2007 6:05 am)
I think the price is going up because they're relying only on old stocks and recycling. I don't think they're making it now.

#22 of 48 Re: The red '69 GTX [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Aug 30, 2007 (7:56 am)

Replying to: texases (Aug 30, 2007 6:33 am)
Well you could be right about that...I only know for sure that any licensed shop can order it up right away. Many have it right on hand. And yes, it is very expensive. But not as expensive as trying to convert.

#23 of 48 R-12 by hotel1

Sep 02, 2007 (7:00 am)

Is still being mfrd. in mexico and is quite the hot
"import" being smuggled over the border !
 
Thankfully I purchased 6 30 lb. canisters several years
back for $99 bucks each before the US ban took effect.
I have 2 bar/rest./motel operations (and cars too)with plenty of r-12 required equipment.
Sure comes in handy and cheap too !

#24 of 48 Re: R-12 [hotel1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 02, 2007 (8:11 am)

Replying to: hotel1 (Sep 02, 2007 7:00 am)
No harm done if you evacuate the systems properly and don't let the R12 into the air. I'd check those Mexico supplies carefully. Sometimes they put propane in the tanks! (Oddly enough, it sorta works, but...gulp..)

#25 of 48 Re: R-12 [Mr_Shiftright] by texases

Sep 02, 2007 (9:17 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 02, 2007 8:11 am)
Guess there's a few more years for Mexico:
"However, the Montreal Protocol set two schedules for the phase out of ODS—1996 for developed countries and 2010 for developing countries—and unwittingly created a black market in the process. Automobile refrigerants like chlorofluorocarbon 12 (CFC-12), also known as R-12, went from a legal price of $4 per pound to a black market price of $30 a pound in the US."

#26 of 48 Re: R-12 [Mr_Shiftright] by hotel1

Sep 12, 2007 (3:54 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 02, 2007 8:11 am)
Heck yea LP/propane gas is/can be used as a refrigerant
(spl). RV fridges use it.............

#27 of 48 Re: R-12 [hotel1] by texases

Sep 13, 2007 (2:21 pm)

Replying to: hotel1 (Sep 12, 2007 3:54 pm)
Well, they run on it, instead of electricity. I'm not sure what the 'working fluid' that does the cooling is.

#28 of 48 Two '66 Satellite converts. Which one would you rather have? by parm

Nov 16, 2007 (10:16 pm)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Plymouth-Satellite-Convertible-s-Match-Resto- red_W0QQitemZ300172944204QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6415QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie- wItem
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-PLYMOUTH-GTX-440-CONVERTIBLE-440-COMMANDO-EN- GINE_W0QQitemZ160180088284QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6412QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi- ewItem
 
The first link shows a restored '66 Plymouth Satellite convertible in what appears to be very good condition. The second link shows a very similar '66 Satellite, but as a GTX clone.
 
Which would be the better car to have and are these asking prices any where close to their market value?

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