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#41 of 294 2009 price, MPG?
Feb 25, 2008 (11:00 pm)
I read on http://tophondanews.blogspot.com/2007/12/2009-honda-fit.html that the 2009 with the 1.3 liter engine and CVT transmission gets 56 MPG, and the 1.5 get 46 (the article quoted litres per 100 kilometer,and I converted them). The article also quoted the price as 9,800 to 14,600. I'm sure this is the JDM version, but I wonder what the mileage will be on the American version? Also, do we pay that much for our cars to meet safety and emission requirements?
Personally I'd much prefer the 1.3 liter engine (100 hp). The 1.5 (120 hp) has 20% more horsepower, but it uses 22% more fuel. Assuming the 1.3 liter engine would get 22% more mpg in America, like they say it does in Japen, a 1.3 liter engine in a 2008 model should increase MPG from 34 to 41.
If the MGP for the 2009 is signaficantly better than the 2008, I'll wait, but I'm not going to wait to get 5 extra cup holders.
#42 of 294 Re: 2009 price, MPG? [joesmith2]
Feb 26, 2008 (9:41 am)
the 2009 with the 1.3 liter engine and CVT transmission gets 56 MPG, and the 1.5 get 46 (the article quoted litres per 100 kilometer,and I converted them). The article also quoted the price as 9,800 to 14,600.
The 1.3L Fit is really not meant for US Roads it's very underpowered for our highways. I know since I drove a 1.3L while overseas. Great car but not if you drive a lot of highway. Japanese mpg testing is also different so the mileage will be off. Here is an excerpt figure what you know about the Prius and compare.
The results of the Prius testing reflected the tougher new test cycle: fuel economy under JC08 came to 26.9 km/l (3.7 l/100km or 63.3 mpg US). Under the 10-15 test cycle, the Prius returned 35.5 km/l (2.8 l/100km or 83.5 mpg US). The 2015 target for the Prius weight category (Class 7: 1,196 - 1,310 kg) is 17.2 km/l (5.8 l/100km or 40.5 mpg US).
No way does a Prius get 27km/l! We have hundreds of Prius's around here and none are getting that kind of fuel economy.
I only got 10.5 km/l in the Fit I was using and my buddy who owned it never got much better than that in full city driving. Real world, the Fit should get 15km/l. Some people get that others do not.
I suspect that the 2009 Fit will get the same economy as the 2008 but have a few more HP and a bit more torque. Plus some other necessities like a dead pedal.
The US will never get the 1.3L engine.
#43 of 294 Re: 2009 price, MPG? [tiff_c]
Feb 26, 2008 (6:36 am)
The Japanese fuel efficiency testing mode called 10-15 is so totally absurdly unreal that, if compared with it, Harry Potter is a documentary.
#44 of 294 Re: 2009 price, MPG? [jacksan1]
Feb 26, 2008 (6:34 pm)
The Japanese fuel efficiency testing mode called 10-15 is so totally absurdly unreal that, if compared with it, Harry Potter is a documentary
Yes, I quite agree. However they are switching their testing methods and eliminating Mode 10-15. I believe the new mode is called JC08.
Here is a link
This brings the Prius for the JDM down to about 40mpg US standard. So it's a heck of a lot more accurate than the older method.
#45 of 294 Re: 2009 price, MPG? [tiff_c]
Feb 27, 2008 (1:23 pm)
Yes, JC08 is coming online. I will have to wait and see how the real world mileage aligns with this new testing standard and vice versa. I knew that there had to be a better way of reporting the fuel efficiency than 10-15 (which, believe it or not, was supposed to be more real-life than the previous 10 mode!).
Feb 29, 2008 (1:48 pm)
Unless I missed it on an earlier post, I've come across a new video of the 2009 Fit in both Base and RS packages in a promotional spot from Japan.
It wouldn't let me attach a link to the web site but if you'd like to check it out, it's on Youtube.com; just type 2009 Honda Fit into the search for video's and it's the first one that pops up.
I've seen the auto show clip where it's on a rotating display but this 2:23 promotional video gives you an idea of what it looks like from all angles actually driving down the road.
#47 of 294 Re: NEW 2009 FIT VIDEO [widetrack2000]
Feb 29, 2008 (4:41 pm)
I saw this video some time ago. It features the car beautifully and is yet another reason I want one! There's no way Honda won't sell these with ease.
#48 of 294 Re: NEW 2009 FIT VIDEO [widetrack2000]
Feb 29, 2008 (4:51 pm)
Yes, thats a good one. I think it came out last fall after the Tokyo show.
If you haven't gone to the Japan honda website its worth the visit.. Pretty easy to navigate with tab system. Try out the maker and dealer options on this page. Although the options may not be the same here, much of the car will be the same.
If you check the first "maker option" and then the one under it, you get the sky roof. http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/3dview/exterior/index.html
I'll be at the NY show. And the sooner they go on sale, the happier I'll be.
#49 of 294 Re: NEW 2009 FIT VIDEO [futurefit]
Feb 29, 2008 (10:34 pm)
I hadn't thought about checking out the Japan Honda web site so thanks for the additional resource to go along with the video I found.
For some reason I seem to be having a problem attaching links to various articles and web sites I find regarding the new Fit and I wanted to ask if you didn't mind telling me how you attached your link to this post?
#50 of 294 Re: NEW 2009 FIT VIDEO [widetrack2000]
Mar 01, 2008 (3:20 am)
Sure, I just hi-lighted the address line, copied it and pasted it in my response.
( Copy and Paste.)
Using Google translate can help a bit with the Japan site. http://www.google.com/translate_t?hl=en