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#12 of 23 Re: Mitsubishi long term viability [psychogun]
Aug 26, 2007 (1:56 pm)
I'm pretty sure that Mitsubishi has decided to stay in the North American market also. I think if they were even considering leaving the U.S. then they would have done so in 2004 - 2005 when everyone in the automotive world said they would leave. The connections with the other Mitsubishi companies, MHI and MBOT in particular, allowed them a little breathing room to bring in the redesigned Outlander and Lancer.
As far as the Illinois manufacturing plants future...I would say that they are going to try damned hard to keep it going. There are a few reasons why I think that way. #1 - There isn't much doubt that the least profitable overseas Mitsubishi manufacturing plant is in Australia, they are churning out about 50 cars a day, one model only (rh drive Galant) and still they have not shut down. The U.S. plant is on only one shift right now but they make 4 models, the Galant, Endeavor, Eclipse and Spyder. The plant is very flexible in its manufacturing capability. #2 Just because the tariffs on imports now are lenient that could change very quickly. If the Democratic party were to control the White House and congress in the next few years there is a good chance they could try to help the UAW - a major source of income for them - by penalizing imports. I have no doubt that if Kerry had won election in 04 he would have tried to help Ford, GM and Chrysler (their UAW workers anyway) by increasing taxes on imports or in other ways. If Mitsubishi has their own plant in the U.S. they can avoid many of these punitive expenses. If they were to close the plant...It's gone forever. Is it possible that VW, at this point in time, wishes they still had a toehold in Pennslyvania? It just seems that Japanese management seems to take a longer "down the road" view of these economic decisions than the Americans or Europeans.
Now, if you want to leave out the profit factor and talk about the "face" factor - we are constantly told how important this is to the Japanese - Mitsubishi has left no doubt about how committed they are to the North American market. The next 2 launches here are the Evo X and the Lancer Ralliart. These are the Halo cars for Mitsubishi Motors. Unless they were totally confident in their market decisions I don't think they would risk selling these cars here first.
Aug 26, 2007 (3:04 pm)
Even the 08 Lancer. Launched way back in early spring, it's just now that the Japanese are able to buy the same car built in their own backyard. Goes to show Mitsubishi recognizes the importance of letting the US get a hold of their latest offering before anyone else in the world. This is THE big market.
#14 of 23 Re: US market
Sep 02, 2007 (4:56 pm)
There was a very nice article about Mitsu in Wall Street Journal about 4 weeks ago. To my surprise, Mitsubishi has captured only 0.8% of the US market by 2007. They have a new CEO in the North American Market now, and he said they'd like to concentrate on making the new and existing customers very happy about owning a Mitsu, rather than on capturing 1.2% of the US Market.
I have gotten an '05 Mitsu Outlander about a half a year ago, and I am hoping to keep the Mitsu until at least 100K miles. Sure, the resale value was very low, but it's good for me!!!! I got it cheap! And I get the rest of the transferrable warranty. Heck, you don't get that with Subaru...
Sep 05, 2007 (8:42 am)
I really appreciate everyone's response to my question about Mitsubishi's long-term viability. It seems they're here for awhile, but probably not going to be huge and are satisfied to stay that way.
So I went to the dealer to see about an Outlander XLS with sun and sound and the other package that's required for s&s. The price, supposedly an 'employee' deal as we know a mechanic who works there, was 9% off MSRP. Some in our household are still not sold on the Outlander and its rough handling over bumpy pavement. I guess that's what 'sport' handling is. The price didn't excite us, so we're waiting for a low mileage used one or who knows. Does that price seem good?
#17 of 23 Re: thanks [prndldriver]
Sep 05, 2007 (8:54 am)
At this time of the year, you should be able to grab 07 XLS in the low $25K range (MSRP 28.8) in AWD form, with Sun/Sound and Luxury Pkgs. and low financing.
#18 of 23 Re: Mitsubishi long term viability [prndldriver]
Dec 31, 2007 (5:43 pm)
I'm a huge Mitsubishi car fan. I'm on numbers 2 and 3 now and thinking of getting a new Outlander. In the Portland, Oregon/Vancouver, Washington area we now have 3 Mitsubishi dealers. Every dealership I have bought a vehicle from has went out of business. My first Mitsubishi was a 1997 Mirage LS Coupe, Bangkok blue. What a great car. I drove it 9 years with no problems at all. That dealer Gatewy Mitsubihi in Portland went under 2 months after I bought the Mirage. In 2004 I buy an Outlander XLS from Dick Hannah Mitsubishi in Vancouver, Washington where I live. The next year I bought my wife a black 2005 Eclipse GTS from the same dealer. February of 2006 Dick Hannah switches from Mitsubishi to Kia. More volume they said. Now, living in Vancouver, my closest dealer is now Rey Reece Volkswagen/Mitsubishi in Portland. They were OK, but just last month they dumped Mitsubishi for Hyundai. We do have a new Mitsubishi dealer in Vancouver now Pete Cann. I think I'm going to trade my 04 Outlander XLS on a new 2008 there. I just hope they can stay in business. It's getting hard to be a Mitsubishi loyalist here.
#19 of 23 Re: Mitsubishi long term viability [weim]
Jan 02, 2009 (10:07 pm)
I was just about to buy an Outlander and now find that there is only one dealership in the whole of the Portland area. This has made me have serious second thoughts with regards to keeping the warranty up. I think Mitsu's are great cars, but car owners need a support network. Vancouver, Salem and Beaverton have all closed their dealerships. I called Mitsubishi and they said they have lots of calls regarding the distance to their local dealers. Are people having problems getting servicing ect?
#20 of 23 Re: Mitsubishi long term viability [mrken30]
Jan 03, 2009 (5:01 pm)
I have no problem. We've got about 6 Mitsu dealerships, and keep getting service reminders mailing from my dealership.
#21 of 23 Re: Mitsubishi long term viability [chelentano]
Jan 04, 2009 (3:07 pm)
Where about are you? Anywhere near portland, OR area?