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Hyundai Santa Fe, Towing, SUV
#48 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [bwd1970]
Aug 28, 2007 (9:34 pm)
I have a similar situation, and today I was fretting over the exact same thing. I tow a small tent trailer 2004 Fleetwood Tuscon (1450 unladen, 1600-1700 laden) with 2007 Santa Fe AWD plus 3rd row with towing package. My tongue weight is around 310 and it definitely has major rear end sag.
I already posted this info previously, but for a recap I e-mailed Air Lift a photo of the rear springs and they said it may or may not work (this is after your remove the rubber bushing at the inside top of the coil spring shaft) because the air bag will only hit two of the coils. Obviously this would be bad if they didn't work.
The other alternative is air shocks, however after an exhaustive search of all the major manufacturers comparing overall length by minimum travel and max travel, including upper mount and lower mount....there is no shock available. I could get a close one that matches most variables and then bore out the rubber bushings and change/add sleeves. My neighbor swears we could do it.
It does seem a little crazy that it has that much rear end sag, I mean at least several crossover SUVs have air suspension systems (Suzuki XL 7) to solve this problem. I bought my Santa Fe primarily to tow. The engine is smooth as silk with plenty of power.
I would not recommend this vehicle as it equipped presently for towing with any sort of heavy tongue weight (300+)....Unless Hyundai gets their act together.
Sorry for the rant but I feel your pain, someone previously tried lift bars but most responded that the body cannot take that sort of tension. It would be nice to use them notched up maybe one chain just to get the rear sag to come up a little.
Maybe a solution will be forth coming from aftermarket companies or even Hyundai.
#49 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (5:15 am)
I have a guy from Valley Spring who is making a progressive rate rear coil for the rear. He states he has a template and has made numerous pairs for Hyundai owners facing the same issue. If it works I'll post it.
My RV dealer said that they found an airbag that will work after matching up specs, etc. If the rear springs don't work, that might be the way to go.
#50 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (5:18 am)
Regarding the weight distribution system that someone tried earlier. Most unit body vehicles are able to handle a weight distribution system with a trailer in the 5000# range, primarily the Jeep Liberty. I wonder why Hyundai discourages its use?
#51 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [bwd1970]
Aug 29, 2007 (7:18 am)
Could you post a link for the Valley Spring Co., cost could be considerable with labor? Under $500 could be ok. That would negate the cost savings of the Santa Fe which specs its towing capabilities.
I keep thinking of other vehicles which would have no problems with the tongue weight and they include a hitch with proper prewiring :' ) The air bag issue is not an option if you have to cut the upper bumper off, how the hell would you get it back on if the air bag didn't work?
It sure is great to have feedback on this issue.
#52 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (7:48 am)
Valley Spring does not have a website. Their phone number is 1-800-287-2645. I have spoken with Bill. The company was referred by Trailer Supply Company out of Ontario, California. I also spoke with a recommended installer for these springs in Escondido, California. From what they are saying, it sounds like it will work or at least I will see major improvement. The springs are fabricated by Valley Spring, custom made so it is about a 2-3 week wait. They are progressive springs, without a load the ride will be similar to the factory springs, loaded they have a spring rate of 485# per inch. My price was $315.00 for the springs and I was quoted about $250.00 for the install. It's worth it to me if it works, I'm not looking at replacing this vehicle.
It's only been a week since I ordered them, so I don't have any other info. at this time. I'll let you know what happens.
#53 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (7:54 am)
I also have several companies that have stated they can make a custom coilover shock for the vehicle. However, they need specs for the shock. They need a compressed length, extended length and measurements for the end mountings. Anyone interested in having their shock measurements taken. If so, please post measurements online.
I was quoted $98.00 for Gabriel coilover shocks by www.shockshopusa.com if I can provide specs on my factory shocks. I'll wait and see if anyone has specs before tearing into mine.
#54 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [bwd1970]
Aug 29, 2007 (7:58 am)
BTW did you have an AWD Santa Fe?
#55 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (8:02 am)
After re-reading your above posting, sounds like you might have measurements for the rear shocks. Could you pass those along, I would like to investigate as well. There may be some local company here in Southern California that can match the shock.
#56 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [gwilly]
Aug 29, 2007 (8:04 am)
No, it's the FWD version, but any measurements you have would be helpful
#57 of 193 Re: Towing a Tent Trailer [bwd1970]
Aug 29, 2007 (8:34 am)
I have misplaced them, when I find them I will pass it along.