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Mitsubishi Outlander Steering Stability and Suspension

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Re: Tough Luck!! [josh_raben1971] by troy5521
Dec 14, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: josh_raben1971 (Apr 08, 2007 9:26 am)

I noticed the same thing.
I'm hoping that someone will post a fix that is how can the suspension be eased off. This is not a lancer or a LeMans racing vehicle but that's exactly what it feels like and with the high center of gravity it sometimes bounces around.
The other thing that really makes it a difficult vehicle is the cross-wind effects. With the high profile it really kicks around a lot.
Someone mentioned lowering the tire pressure which helped a little but not totally.
There should be a way to soften the ride.
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Re: Tough Luck!! [troy5521] by mislovic
Dec 21, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: troy5521 (Dec 14, 2008 5:46 pm)

the outlander seems underdamped (especially the rear). i noticed that the rear tends to bounce a bit and sometimes, over extends on rebound.
firmer dampers would help, but i've yet to find one.
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Rear suspension by batman47
Mar 07, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Suspension matters:
 
While inspecting the Outlander for the occasional damages to the underneath I found out that the rear suspension design is that the shock absorber is outside the coil spring and both rest in independent bases. I suspect that this is an old rear suspension design.
 
Going to Japanese Outlander (year 2008) information sold in Japan the rear suspension assemblage seems to be more modern technology, I think, because the shock absorber is inside the coil spring and both rest in only one base. This layout is very similar to what is called Macpherson suspension usually located in the front of the car (see attached).
Could someone elaborate on this finding or are we being sold substandard suspension outlanders in the USA?
 
http://www.carspace.com/batman47/Albums/batman47%27s%20Album/outlander08-suspens- ion.jpg/page/photo.html#pic
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Re: Steering Problems [linloo] by olliexls2007
Mar 13, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: linloo (Jul 21, 2008 10:32 am)

Major torque on even semi-quick (normal for me) starts with fromt wheel drive..gets quite hairy. I used to run 4WD nearly all the time until they told me to use it only in deep snow, sugar sand , etc..
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Re: Rear suspension [batman47] by jrcola
Mar 29, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: batman47 (Mar 07, 2009 9:08 am)

Hi Batman47,
 
I too have noticed the discrepancy in the Outlander’s rear suspension from what you see in the brochures, and what you get in the actual vehicles. After a recent test drive, I saw a bit of the spare tire below the rear bumper, and I wanted to verify if it was a full size spare or the thinner space saver type. As I was down there I noticed that on this 2009 V6 XLS the shock absorber was beside the spring just like yours. I asked the sales manager if this is the suspension type in the fully loaded Outlanders., and if they’ve been that way since 2008. His answer was yes to both, but had no answer to why it does not look like the one in the brochures for both 2008,and 2009.
 
I then went to another dealer on my way to work, and spoke with the service department staff, and they said that the Outlander is a “WORLD” car. That the models we receive here in N.A are the same as what they get in Japan, and the rest of the world. So I asked why again does the suspension in the actual V6 equipped model not match the brochure, and their best answer was that “different models have different suspensions”. This dealer had a much larger inventory of Outlanders, so I took a quick peak at a few models and voila I saw the different types.
 
It seems that the 4 cylinder AWD model has the rear suspension that is displayed in the brochures, with the spring/shock being one unit. Once you go to the V6 AWD model you get the other type. Now I must admit that I did this quickly as I was doing this on my way to work.
 
I couldn’t verify 100% that the suspension that we see in the brochures is the one that I saw under a few 4 cylinder AWD models, but I can confirm that it has the spring/shock as one unit. I pointed out my findings to the service staff, and they seemed to act like they knew that all along, and confirmed that the rear suspension in the V6 AWD is “Sport Tuned” and is going to give a stiffer/rougher ride then the 4 cylinder AWD rear suspension.
 
The same diagram we are referring to is much larger in the 2008 brochure than in the 2009, and if you look at it closely you can tell that the V6 engine is actually a drawing superimposed onto a real picture of a suspension. What that suspension was from is still a question to me. It looks more sophisticated like it has a wishbone type rear suspension. A suspension I still have to verify exists in any Outlander model.
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Suspension & Ride by feroz
May 12, 2009 (6:32 pm)
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I just love the ride on the 4 cyl 2009 outlanders. I´m thinking about getting a 6 cyl XLS BUT with the 16 inch wheels. This because I noticed the 6 cyl to drive quite harsher. I assume BOTH suspensions are basicaly the sme and the ride is afected because of the wheels is this so? Is the XLS suspension Sport tuned and diffrent from the 4 cyl?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Suspension & Ride [feroz] by solowalker
May 14, 2009 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: feroz (May 12, 2009 6:32 pm)

Usually, the 18" XLS Goodyears are shipped with 60 psi in the tires...Lower the pressure to 32 and give it another try.
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Re: Suspension & Ride [solowalker] by comem47
May 14, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: solowalker (May 14, 2009 6:20 am)

Makes one wonder about the so called "dealer prep" if they leave the tires at 60 psi !!
 
I've got an LS with the 16" tires and I like them because it gives a bit more sidewall
when falling into a pothole. Living in NY, the narrower, taller tires are also a more practical choice for a CUV and a little bit better for winter traction (not as much as a better tread though). I'm really amazed how the trend has gone towards 20" and beyond over the past few years. (Fine for a show car, but toss those rims in the trash at the first pothole)
 
This plus sizing gains sharper tire turning response at the expense of ride comfort (suspension should take into effect less sidewall cushioning so going to large rims tires may feel harsh over bumps if the car wasn't already designed for that) In a CUV I'd prefer the ability to take bumps over sharper steering response. (sports car is another animal all together)
 
http://www.discounttire.com/images/plusSizingGraphic.gif
 
Tell me how this SUV fairs after the first large pothole!!!
 
http://image.sporttruck.com/f/14376998/0511st_04_z+truck_wheels_and_tires_plus_s- izing+cadillac_escalade_26s.jpg
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Re: Suspension & Ride [comem47] by toomanyfumes
May 14, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: comem47 (May 14, 2009 8:11 am)

That link reminds me of when I had a loaner car when our previous car was at the body shop. It wouldn't start (Olds Intrique, ended up being a fried computer.) Anyway, the shop sent their mechanic in his Tahoe on like 24" rims. He had to stop, back up and hit my driveway perfectly straight to not scratch his rims on the curb lip. Look at any of those rims used, they are scraped up.
 
I didn't check my Outlanders tire pressure until it was about 6 months old, it was about 45 psi then. I didn't lower the pressure because it was riding fine. Now I have pretty good wear on the center of the tire with about 23K on the car.

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