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Mitsubishi Outlander Steering Stability and Suspension

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#94 of 117
Clunking revisited by cali1cdn_eh
Jul 25, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Hi all,
Thought this forum would be a good way to inquire if an intermittent "issue" I am getting is shared with any of my fellow Outie owners.
 
I have an '08 XLS (CDN model) and when engaging from the park to drive, or from drive to park we had on several occassions experience a clucking noise + a sudden surge (forward or backward). Good thing I normally cover my brakes in any event. Has anyone experience this?
 
I took it to my dealer and they we really good about it and even search for any info / TSB's and found none.
 
Not 100% sure if this inquiry is related to the previous "clunking" posts that I see in '07 but thought to inquire here for owners with the 2008 version.
 
So far I'm lovin' my Outtie especially with the 650 thumping beat of power
Thanks
#95 of 117
Re: Steering Problems [linloo] by batman47
Jul 26, 2008 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: linloo (Jul 21, 2008 9:32 am)

If your car pull to the left or to the right while you are on the road your car need a serious alignment setting. Ask to your dealer to give you the computer print out of the actual setting before alignment and then ask your dealer the computer listing after the alignmnet. The latest must mach the manufacturer alignment setting. Generally there are 3 setting (e.g. Toes, Camber, and something). Your owner manual hasn't have this numbers, but your dealer should provide you with the right setting. Ask him what are the righ angles of the setting before any job is done in your car.
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Overloaded suspension by batman47
Jul 26, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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My Outlander is expected to be loaded with 1300 pounds weight (8 passengers, 70 Kg/160 pounds each). I wonder if the vehicle can stand that weight load without damaged the rear suspension/damper. What I note is that the rear tires almost touch the chassis or wheel cover arch when the car is loaded. Am I overloading the car? Does the Outlander LXS V6 have sport suspension? Are these dampers stronger than the no sport suspension?
 
I have been told that I may buy some damper called “progressive dampers” that become stronger when the car’s load increases. If this is true what brand of suspension/damper are on the market? Is there a Mitsubishi suspension/damper (progressive) that can be ordered from my dealership?
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Re: Overloaded suspension [batman47] by jbowen52
Aug 22, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: batman47 (Jul 26, 2008 6:47 pm)

I recently completed a 7000 mile road trip in my 07 XLS. It was loaded for camping and as you noted, the rear tires almost touch the wheel arches. Generally it was OK but would bottom on severe bumps. I never detected any permanent damage, but would really like to add air shocks to the back to be able to level the car with a big load. I had used the Monroe Max-Air shocks in a Ford Aerostar with great results. Just blow them up as required to get it back to normal. I inquired to Monroe, but they don't make a suitable shock for the Outlander. If anyone else out there has an answer to rear load leveling, I would be very interested.
#98 of 117
Re: Overloaded suspension [jbowen52] by batman47
Aug 28, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: jbowen52 (Aug 22, 2008 6:36 pm)

The Dakar Outlander support car has been adapted with special damper/suspension (something called Boss suspension, I think). Does somebody know what is this?
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Re: Tough Luck!! [josh_raben1971] by troy5521
Dec 14, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: josh_raben1971 (Apr 08, 2007 8:26 am)

I noticed the same thing.
I'm hoping that someone will post a fix that is how can the suspension be eased off. This is not a lancer or a LeMans racing vehicle but that's exactly what it feels like and with the high center of gravity it sometimes bounces around.
The other thing that really makes it a difficult vehicle is the cross-wind effects. With the high profile it really kicks around a lot.
Someone mentioned lowering the tire pressure which helped a little but not totally.
There should be a way to soften the ride.
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Re: Tough Luck!! [troy5521] by mislovic
Dec 21, 2008 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: troy5521 (Dec 14, 2008 4:46 pm)

the outlander seems underdamped (especially the rear). i noticed that the rear tends to bounce a bit and sometimes, over extends on rebound.
firmer dampers would help, but i've yet to find one.
#101 of 117
Rear suspension by batman47
Mar 07, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Suspension matters:
 
While inspecting the Outlander for the occasional damages to the underneath I found out that the rear suspension design is that the shock absorber is outside the coil spring and both rest in independent bases. I suspect that this is an old rear suspension design.
 
Going to Japanese Outlander (year 2008) information sold in Japan the rear suspension assemblage seems to be more modern technology, I think, because the shock absorber is inside the coil spring and both rest in only one base. This layout is very similar to what is called Macpherson suspension usually located in the front of the car (see attached).
Could someone elaborate on this finding or are we being sold substandard suspension outlanders in the USA?
 
http://www.carspace.com/batman47/Albums/batman47%27s%20Album/outlander08-suspens- ion.jpg/page/photo.html#pic
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Re: Steering Problems [linloo] by olliexls2007
Mar 13, 2009 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: linloo (Jul 21, 2008 9:32 am)

Major torque on even semi-quick (normal for me) starts with fromt wheel drive..gets quite hairy. I used to run 4WD nearly all the time until they told me to use it only in deep snow, sugar sand , etc..
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Re: Rear suspension [batman47] by jrcola
Mar 29, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: batman47 (Mar 07, 2009 8:08 am)

Hi Batman47,
 
I too have noticed the discrepancy in the Outlander’s rear suspension from what you see in the brochures, and what you get in the actual vehicles. After a recent test drive, I saw a bit of the spare tire below the rear bumper, and I wanted to verify if it was a full size spare or the thinner space saver type. As I was down there I noticed that on this 2009 V6 XLS the shock absorber was beside the spring just like yours. I asked the sales manager if this is the suspension type in the fully loaded Outlanders., and if they’ve been that way since 2008. His answer was yes to both, but had no answer to why it does not look like the one in the brochures for both 2008,and 2009.
 
I then went to another dealer on my way to work, and spoke with the service department staff, and they said that the Outlander is a “WORLD” car. That the models we receive here in N.A are the same as what they get in Japan, and the rest of the world. So I asked why again does the suspension in the actual V6 equipped model not match the brochure, and their best answer was that “different models have different suspensions”. This dealer had a much larger inventory of Outlanders, so I took a quick peak at a few models and voila I saw the different types.
 
It seems that the 4 cylinder AWD model has the rear suspension that is displayed in the brochures, with the spring/shock being one unit. Once you go to the V6 AWD model you get the other type. Now I must admit that I did this quickly as I was doing this on my way to work.
 
I couldn’t verify 100% that the suspension that we see in the brochures is the one that I saw under a few 4 cylinder AWD models, but I can confirm that it has the spring/shock as one unit. I pointed out my findings to the service staff, and they seemed to act like they knew that all along, and confirmed that the rear suspension in the V6 AWD is “Sport Tuned” and is going to give a stiffer/rougher ride then the 4 cylinder AWD rear suspension.
 
The same diagram we are referring to is much larger in the 2008 brochure than in the 2009, and if you look at it closely you can tell that the V6 engine is actually a drawing superimposed onto a real picture of a suspension. What that suspension was from is still a question to me. It looks more sophisticated like it has a wishbone type rear suspension. A suspension I still have to verify exists in any Outlander model.

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