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Toyota RAV4, Engine, Fuel System, Car Buying, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
Feb 02, 2009 (7:56 pm)
My wife and I bought an 08 V6 RAV4 4x4 Limited last summer for her to haul the kids around town. It will never travel more than 100 miles from home (that's what the Yukon XL's for), but I just didn't see the point of the 4-cylinder. The mileage is basically the same. The V6 transforms this modest cute-ute into a sleeper. That thing accelerates faster than a 2000 Mustang GT. Plus with the V6 you can get the tow package and drag around up to 3500 lbs. Overall, I am extremely impressed with this vehicle. What it does (provide a lot of capability in a miniature package) it does better than any other make. I was perusing the Mercedes GLK specs after seeing a commercial, today. For $10G less, the RAV4 beats it in almost every category. Same engine, same horsepower, basically same acceleration, way better mileage, two more seats. Using MB's comparison tool, you can't even select a Toyota to compare. I guess they know. Okay, so they get points for the wood dash. Sorry, off subject. In a nutshell, getting the V6 just takes this vehicle to another level. The 2.5L is more than adequate, but it's nothing to write home about. I was recently towing a trailer with my 1,000 lb John Deere garden tractor with tiller attached. I pulled out into traffic and I saw the cars a mile out move to the left lane to pass the knucklehead towing a tractor with a micro-utility vehicle. In a matter of seconds I was up to speed and beyond. They reclaimed their spots in the right lane behind me.
#23 of 43 Re: [tireguy]
Feb 03, 2009 (7:01 am)
Aside from the nice extra power of the V-6, here are some disadvantages:
-initial cost is higher
-city gas mileage is lower
-for DIYs the V-6 is much harder to service, try changing the rear sparkplugs
-heavier weight of 6 cyl means longer stopping distance on slippery surfaces
Feb 05, 2009 (10:19 pm)
True, the initial cost of the V6 is about $2000 higher. But you get a RAV that is a lot more fun to drive!
City gas mileage is a bit lower. If you do the math, the average driver will spend an extra $150-200 a year. Goes toward the fun factor.
The iridium tipped spark plugs don't need to be changed until 100,000 miles!
Yes, it may be a bit heavier, but the RAV brakes are very good--stopping is not an issue. The V-6 is the main reason I picked the RAV over the CR-V. After a couple of test drives, it was an easy decision.
#25 of 43 Re: [junebug1701]
Feb 06, 2009 (8:07 am)
More the fun factor for you, ok. Should point out that sometimes the plugs will not come out at 100k miles for any engine, some mechanics recommend loosening the sparkplugs at 30-40k miles and re tight them.
Feb 06, 2009 (10:25 am)
I worried a bit about that issue with my minivan. I told the shop to loosen the plugs at 30k, but I have no way of knowing if they did or not. At 125k, I had the plugs replaced and asked the tech if they had any trouble with them being seized or anything. The tech said they always wait until the engine is dead cold (overnight in my case) before trying to pull plugs and that they had no problem with mine.
Could be an urban legend about the cold engine. I recall hearing Click and Clack warning about the possibility of high mileage plugs seizing so some proactive loosening may be in order.
#27 of 43 Re: [steve_]
Feb 06, 2009 (10:41 am)
I just changed the plugs ($80, first time) in our '95 LS400 at 225,000 miles. Except for a seriously longer spark gap the plugs looked fine. With the new solid state electronic spark genration the spark plug gap is no longer such a big issue.
Feb 06, 2009 (10:53 am)
I did the wires and distributor at the same time. My mpg didn't budge a bit, which makes me think I should have just waited until something broke.
#29 of 43 Re: [steve_]
Feb 06, 2009 (12:41 pm)
Yes, I think the emissions monitoring aspects of the OBDII systems will give us lots of forewarning of marginal perfromance.
#31 of 43 Re: 2009 RAV4 MPG [toughshift]
Mar 06, 2009 (10:09 am)
Here's some "real world" mileage figures:
Brand new 2009 V6....took it on a trip to New Mexico and Arizona starting in Minnesota. 4,498 miles....22.6 miles per gallon.
70-80 miles per hour on freeways plus city driving, lots of baggage.
There ya go.