Article Comments - 2008 Honda Accord First Drive, Full Test and Long Term Test

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan

First Drive: 2008 Honda Accord Sedan - The '08 Accord strikes a familiar balance of performance, value and efficiency. But this time it's not bland. (more)

First Drive: 2008 Honda Accord Coupe - An oddly sexy Honda Accord with the heart of, well, a Honda Accord. (more)

Full Test: 2008 Honda Accord EX V6 - At the test track, the new Accord hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds and ran the quarter-mile in 15.5 seconds at 91.8 mph. That's a solid improvement over the Accord in our last V6 Family Sedan Comparison Test, but it's still well behind the Camry V6 that whomped to 60 in just 6.5 seconds and scorched the quarter in 14.6 seconds at 97.3 mph. (more)

Long-Term Test: 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6 - With every new generation of a vehicle as popular as this, questions are raised, even more so in a segment as fiercely competitive as the family sedan market. Has Honda gone too far in an effort to spice up its volume offering, aspired to too much sophistication? (more)

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#284 of 309 by jaeger1 Nov 28, 2008 (1:55 pm)
So let me get this straight - Honda's VCM is supposed to give it a significant advantage in economy over it's similarly powerful, but fixed-displacement competitors, right? I mean, this is Honda showing a leadership role on the technological front, right? So how come it can't even come close to EQUALING (never mind surpassing) the observed fuled economy of the long-term Camry - one of the oldest vehicles in the segment? And a vehicle that is quicker, to boot? Try as they might, Honda can't fight the laws of physics - there is a price to be paid for all that bloated mass, and in the case of fuel economy, it is quantifiable. In terms of its train-wreck aesthetics, less so. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Nov 28, 2008 10:26 pm)
#285 of 309 Re: [jaeger1] by thegraduate Nov 28, 2008 (10:26 pm)
Replying to: jaeger1 (Nov 28, 2008 1:55 pm) So let me get this straight - Honda's VCM is supposed to give it a significant advantage in economy over it's similarly powerful, but fixed-displacement competitors Where do they say that? Its ratings are very similar to that of vehicles like the Camry. So how come it can't even come close to EQUALING (never mind surpassing) the observed fuled economy of the long-term Camry Did you drive that Camry on the same route you drive the Accord? I'd bet not. So in this case, you're comparing apples to orange juice.
#286 of 309 Re: Long-term Test [carzzz] by baggs32 Nov 29, 2008 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: carzzz (Nov 28, 2008 6:15 am) 7 seconds to 60 is right on par with most other V6 mid-size sedans so I wouldn't say the Accord is in I4 territory there. However, the fact that it slowed down after 20k miles is what would worry me. Most cars tend to get faster, by a tenth of a second or two, with age but this particular copy did the opposite and in a big way. I'd be very curious to see those same data from some other long term test results. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Dec 01, 2008 5:57 pm) thegraduate (Dec 01, 2008 6:08 pm) bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 3:42 am) and 1 more...
#287 of 309 Re: Long-term Test [baggs32] by bodble2 Dec 01, 2008 (5:57 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 29, 2008 6:16 pm) Those 0-60 times are comparable to those posted by the '98-2002 Accord V6 rated at 200hp under the old standard, so not much progress in 10 years. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 01, 2008 6:08 pm) bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 3:42 am) thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 7:25 am)
#288 of 309 Re: Long-term Test [bodble2] by thegraduate Dec 01, 2008 (6:08 pm)
Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 01, 2008 5:57 pm) About the 1999 Accord EX V6 Coupe, here at Edmunds: With 200 horsepower and 195 foot-pounds of torque on tap, the V6-equipped coupe gets to 60 mph in 7.5 seconds. Its fuel economy is 18/26, and the Accord of that era weighed about 400 lbs less than today's model. Today's fuel economy is 19/29, and has more safety equipment, room, and accelerates to 60 MPH 0.5 sec faster according to Edmunds (although most other magazines show a ~1 sec difference - 7.6sec for the old 200hp Sedan, approx 6.5sec for the new 271hp model). I'd call that substantial improvement. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 3:42 am) thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 7:25 am)
#289 of 309 Re: Long-term Test [thegraduate] by bodble2 Dec 02, 2008 (3:42 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 01, 2008 6:08 pm) "Acceleration to 60 mph from a standstill required 7 seconds (with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) when new, but grew to 7.8 seconds by the Accord's final test..." Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 7:25 am)
#290 of 309 Re: Long-term Test [bodble2] by thegraduate Dec 02, 2008 (7:25 am)
Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 3:42 am) Sounds like a flaw/anomaly with that Accord.
#291 of 309 by DDynamics Dec 02, 2008 (8:43 am)
7 sec. is kind of disappointing from a 268HP V6 when the CVT Altima 4 banger hits 60 in 7.4 (C&D test). However, I'm sure it's more than adequate in any normal driving situation. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 9:43 am) bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 12:35 pm) th83 (Dec 02, 2008 1:06 pm) and 14 more...
#292 of 309 Re: [DDynamics] by thegraduate Dec 02, 2008 (9:43 am)
Replying to: DDynamics (Dec 02, 2008 8:43 am) Please compare apples to apples when comparing though! Edmunds has notoriously lower acceleration times when comparing to C&D and Motor Trend. Those same magazines tested the V6 Accord at 6.5sec. To note the difference, Edmunds showed the I4 Accord running in the low 9s (9.3 I think?), while Car and Driver had it running at 8.2sec to 60. They apparently use different track surfaces/launch techniques than the magazines do. I can see how it'd look bad, but one really has to compare results within the same source to see how vehicles compare, because methods differ from publication to publication. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 12:35 pm) th83 (Dec 02, 2008 1:06 pm) bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 5:06 pm) and 13 more...
#293 of 309 Re: [thegraduate] by bodble2 Dec 02, 2008 (12:35 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 9:43 am) C & D will launch using brake-torquing. Not sure if Edmunds would do that. Replies to this message: th83 (Dec 02, 2008 1:06 pm) bodble2 (Dec 02, 2008 5:06 pm) thegraduate (Dec 02, 2008 8:22 pm) and 12 more...