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Article Comments - 2008 Honda Accord First Drive, Full Test and Long Term Test

309 messages,  Last post on May 02, 2009 at 8:03 PM

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Coupe, Sedan

First Drive: 2008 Honda Accord Sedan - The '08 Accord strikes a familiar balance of performance, value and efficiency. But this time it's not bland. (more)
 
First Drive: 2008 Honda Accord Coupe - An oddly sexy Honda Accord with the heart of, well, a Honda Accord. (more)
 
Full Test: 2008 Honda Accord EX V6 - At the test track, the new Accord hit 60 mph in 7.1 seconds and ran the quarter-mile in 15.5 seconds at 91.8 mph. That's a solid improvement over the Accord in our last V6 Family Sedan Comparison Test, but it's still well behind the Camry V6 that whomped to 60 in just 6.5 seconds and scorched the quarter in 14.6 seconds at 97.3 mph. (more)
 
Long-Term Test: 2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6 - With every new generation of a vehicle as popular as this, questions are raised, even more so in a segment as fiercely competitive as the family sedan market. Has Honda gone too far in an effort to spice up its volume offering, aspired to too much sophistication? (more)


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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [blufz1] by 06nighthawkv6
Oct 18, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Oct 18, 2007 12:36 pm)

Check out the Road and Track test of the 6m non vcm coupe. 5.9 0-60 and 14.5 quarter with lots of wheel spin! Trap speed says it all,99.8!
 
This might all well be fine and dandy but how many Americans can shift..realistically...off-hand from your years on this planet (and in this country)...how many? 1%...maybe 2%? We are not talking about a whole lot of people to try an impress here.
 
In the car making world that Honda is in, dollars and sen$e rules first and foremost and thus Automatic Transmissions, call them what you want, rule this land without dinosaurs!
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [06nighthawkv6] by robertsmx
Oct 18, 2007 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: 06nighthawkv6 (Oct 18, 2007 1:19 pm)

It doesn't matter how many buy a car with manual transmission. The fact is, it is available. So I see no reason to dismiss talk around it.
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [fourteen14] by elroy5
Oct 18, 2007 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Oct 18, 2007 12:51 pm)

"with lots of wheel spin!"
  
Why, oh why, would I want that?? I've waited for years to have a car that just goes, without burning up my tires, or standing still while spinning! Burning tires is like burning money, and just as stupid!!

 
Because a little wheel spin helps the times. The wheel spin gets the rpms up, and more rpms means more hp. Car testers have mentioned before, that being able to turn traction control off, helps 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [fourteen14] by blufz1
Oct 18, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Oct 18, 2007 12:51 pm)

This is only a question for the Launch Challenged.
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [blufz1] by fourteen14
Oct 18, 2007 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Oct 18, 2007 2:44 pm)

I spent many years drag racing at the track. There a little wheel spin can help, but on the street it can almost guarantee: (1) Slightly quicker launch; (2) Accelerated wear and tear on the car; (3) Sooner tire replacement; (4) Less gas mileage; (5) Pissed off other drivers; (6) Pissed off police; (7) Tickets; (8) Increased insurance rates; and (9) Most people who will say: "Look at that A**H***!!".
 
A smooth, quiet, quick, stealth launch is much preferred on the street, and if you should lose, less embarassment!
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [fourteen14] by blufz1
Oct 18, 2007 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Oct 18, 2007 3:56 pm)

All those "years drag racing at the track." Puh...leeze! It's not "the track". It's "The Strip."
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [blufz1] by fourteen14
Oct 18, 2007 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Oct 18, 2007 8:12 pm)

"It's not "the track". It's "The Strip."
 
Maybe for you, but for your information, in the mid-1960s I ran my Chevys and GTOs during the season on Wed nights, Sat nights, and Sunday afternoons. Two of these tracks were stock car TRACKS with extensions, shaped like the letter 'Q'. The starting line was at the end of the extension, then onto the oval track, down the straightaway to the finish line, around the rest of the track to slow down (with the drum brakes), and back to the pits. Sunday was on a dedicated dragstrip called a DRAGWAY. When we spoke of going racing, we referred to it as "Going to the TRACK." In those days we went to the TRACK, not to the STRIP!
 
We also did a lot of 'street racing' for fun before it became a near Federal offense to do so! We would cruise Main Street and Lake Avenue looking for a 'Smart A**' like you to take away their know-it-all pride and often their cash! After too many tickets, a few 'near-death' experiences, and a fatal accident (not me, a close friend), we confined our racing to the TRACK!!
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [elroy5] by fourteen14
Oct 18, 2007 (10:07 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Oct 18, 2007 2:11 pm)

"Because a little wheel spin helps the times."
 
Perhaps, a little, but at the expense of CONTROL! One of my favorite spots is where we have two left turn lanes onto the entrance ramp of I-40. 2/3 of the way down, the two lanes merge into one to then enter the highway. With 340HP, RWD, A/T, and ESP (with traction control) turned ON, I can comfortably make that full throttle left turn from a standing stop without spinning the wheels or the car! (I always choose the inside lane just in case!)
 
With the ESP OFF and 390# of torque, I might be just making doughnuts, or doing a crash and burn! No thanks!!
 
Also test numbers are one thing, the real world is something else. Against a hot car with a manual trans, one ploy with an A/T is to leave gently so that the other guy relaxes, and then floor it just as he shifts early into second gear. That really hurts their feelings!!
 
With this car I can floor it at 20MPH on a gravel road, and accelerate straight and smooth without hardly disturbing a stone!! Try that with your Non VCM FWD car!!
 
Using traction control, stability control, and ABS just makes driving so much easier and safer, even when doing things that could be considered dangerous or even reckless!! Stability Control is now considered the most important safety device since the Seat Belt! I concur!!
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Re: You Gotta Get the Non VCM to be BAD!! [fourteen14] by blufz1
Oct 18, 2007 (10:38 pm)
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Oct 18, 2007 9:21 pm)

Don't remember any popular songs about "the track". Do remember this..... "It happened at the strip where the road is wide. Two cool cars standing side by side",etc.,etc.,etc. No offense intended,just keepin' the conversation lively.
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jans57 by jans57
Nov 04, 2007 (11:39 am)
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Have had the new 08 Honda Accord EX V6 for a month now. Love many things about it, BUT, we are hearing "lifter" noise in the engine and when we shift from reverse to drive, we hear a large click. Dealer has been notified, but has no answer. Has anyone else experienced this? Next stop, we will call Honda!

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