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#474 of 513 Re: MPG [zheton]
by backy
Nov 29, 2008 (6:40 pm)
"Pure city" can mean many different things. Consider that your one-way trips are 6 miles. That is barely enough to warm up the car. Also, if all of your commute is stop-and-go, with a lot of idling e.g. for stoplights, that will kill fuel economy.
I do a lot of 12-mile round trips in the city also in my Elantra ('04 AT), and I get mid-20s in those conditions. But my trips are one of the two scenarios:
1) Go about 1 mile and hop on freeway (usually not very congested, can go 60-65 usually). Hop off about 1/2 mile from my destination. Return trip is about the same.
2) Drive on suburban streets for 6 miles. Many stoplights along the way, but I try to anticipate them as much as is practical and with luck can cruise through most of them. Speed limit on those streets is 35 mph, which is a sweet spot for my car as I can get into 4th gear at very low revs (1400-1500) w/o lugging the engine.
I'll bet my scenarios aren't anything like yours. Also I've noticed that now that my 17-year-old son drives the car to school (see #2 above) and the weather is colder (often 20 or less in the morning), he is averaging only a little over 20 mpg. I have 35 years of driving experience over him, so I think a lot depends on the skill of the driver in using a light foot and keeping the car moving while using as little gas as possible.
Note also that when Consumer Reports tested the 2008 Elantra with AT, they got 18 mpg in city driving (and 36 on the highway, with 27 combined). Their city driving course is pretty tough I think, i.e. their test site is near NYC. So your 17 mpg is not far off the mark compared to that.
P.S. The 2008 Elantra should be at least 10% better in fuel economy than the 2004 Elantra, everything else being equal.
#475 of 513 Re: Please post date of manufacture if you have fuel pump problems [3kidsinback]
by penguin723
Nov 30, 2008 (1:12 pm)
Thank you for the link it was very helpful. I was unable to find a place to add my complaint to the file there. Do you know how I can do that. I was involved in a crash that could have been fatal and would like to add what happened to me.
#476 of 513 Re: MPG [backy]
by zheton
Nov 30, 2008 (2:32 pm)
Thank you.
My highway mpg is also in high 30, at one point I even reached 42 mpg with one passenger and A/C. I drive in NYC and probably that explains such a low city mpg.
#477 of 513 Re: MPG [zheton]
by backy
Nov 30, 2008 (2:37 pm)
I agree. If you can get low 40s on the highway, I don't think there's anything wrong with the car.
#478 of 513 Re: Please post date of manufacture if you have fuel pump problems [penguin723]
by schukanuoslady
Dec 02, 2008 (1:45 am)
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
Here you go. Here's the link. Within 3 days you will be contacted by email too for further information. My husband's Elantra shut down and caused a 3 car crash involving 2 cars and a 18 wheeler. The person who contacts you called us and even sent for the police report where it took place. He is a very nice person and I have had the pleasure of talking to him on the phone. He is very, very helpful if he needs to talk to you.
Dec 02, 2008 (1:53 am)
I have 3,456 miles on my car since June 4, 2008. 3 round trips to NJ (75 miles each way) and the rest all city driving. I notice depending on where I get the gas is how good my mileage is. With 2 people at all times I don't get less than 24 miles per gallon around town. I notice my car does not like Sunoco Gas or Citgo. And depending on which Mobil I can get bad mileage. I usually put in Gulf which has 10% ethanol in it. They are the only ones I have found to actually have signs on the pumps that there is 10% etanol in the gas. Since I live 2 miles from NJ I go over the state line to buy gas and today since Premium was only $1.79 I splurged and put in the Premium. I said...what the heck. After paying almost $4 a gallon I decided to treat my engine. And I read that the actual mileage testing done by Hyundai was on high test. I will know my next fill up the difference between regular and premium. But I NEVER get below 24 miles per gal. around the town. And I get even better on the highway with 2 people in the car. I know my tank holds 14 gallons and my gas light comes on when I have 2 gallons left.
#480 of 513 Re: Please post date of manufacture if you have fuel pump problems [schukanuoslady]
by bcalvy66
Dec 02, 2008 (8:52 am)
I am thinking about buying a 2008 Elantra SE but when I read posts like this, it really makes me cringe. Is your husband ok?? Did this happen recently? Did you have the fuel pump changed before the accident?
I told one dealer that I wouldn't buy the car unless he could prove to me that the fuel pump had been replaced. He acted like it was no big deal and that it "probably" was when the recall was enacted. I don't know if I should believe him or not.
#481 of 513 Re: Please post date of manufacture if you have fuel pump problems [bcalvy66]
by backy
Dec 02, 2008 (5:19 pm)
It would be an easy thing for the dealer to confirm that the car got a fuel pump replacement, there would be a record of it in their service database. I believe that a new car with a safety recall cannot be delivered until the recall has been taken care of.
#482 of 513 Re: MPG [schukanuoslady]
by dovid2
Dec 03, 2008 (11:26 am)
According to a quote I saw that was supposed to be from the FTC,
...in most cases, using a higher octane gasoline than your owner’s manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won’t make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner. Your best bet: listen to your owner’s manual.
As a rule, high octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming, in removing them, or in cleaning your car’s engine.
I used to use premium some in the old days, but they say the new computers compensate and cancel the benefits.
#483 of 513 Re: Please post date of manufacture if you have fuel pump problems [bcalvy66]
by schukanuoslady
Dec 03, 2008 (2:12 pm)
This happened right after he bought the car and it was before the fuel pump recall. He was not hurt, but then the recalls went out for the fuel pumps pretty quick. I think by now all the dealers have replaced the fuel pump. The only thing...my fuel pump was replaced and recorded it was replaced. My husbands was replaced July. And he got a recall notice in Sept. 2 weeks after my recall notice came and we looked at Carfax and it said mine was done and his was not. So we called Hyundai Headquarters and they said the dealer probably didn't report it to Carfax they replaced his fuel pump. My Carfax report states recall and the day it was done. Get the vin# of the car you want and call Hyundai Headquarters to see if it was replaced. It was only certain months too that had the wrong fuel pump in them.