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300 for training? by jproc
Jan 13, 2009 (2:16 pm)
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I'd run from that place fast.Economy is bad people are out of work and some losers will try and take advantage of desperate people.Training should be either free or you get paid a minimal amount while undergoing it.
 
I lost my job back in may-did some training to be a limo driver and got paid minimum wage.Found out I hated being a limo driver and became a school bus driver.Basically the training there was free although I did get $ 250 when I completed the course
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Re: 300 for training? [jproc] by oldfarmer50
Jan 13, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: jproc (Jan 13, 2009 2:16 pm)

"...Found out I hated being a limo driver and became a school bus driver..."
 
LOL. As a school bus driver myself, I find that very funny. If you think that the fat cats in the limo can be a pain, wait until you have a go-round with some spoiled brat and his obnoxious parents. I wish you luck, you'll need it.
 
Your post did jog my memory Re: the OP's question. I think that in many states, charging a fee for training is illegal. Way back when I trained to be a bus driver they did not pay you but these days the law says you have to be paid at least minimum wage. I think that is true for most jobs where training is involved. I'm in NY state so this may not apply to all places.
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Re: New Car Sales [grnerd] by joel0622
Jan 16, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: grnerd (Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm)

Its not a scam, its not a rip off, its legit. That is the way many dealers in our area recruit new sales people. We have done it several times. They do the interviews, they do the training, at the end of the third day we interview who ever is left and tell them who to hire. if we really like the recruit and they don't have the dough then we front it for them.
 
You would be amazed how much riff raff $300-$400 will keep away.
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by boomchek
Jan 17, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 16, 2009 3:57 pm)

I guess you could put it that way.
 
at the end of the third day we interview who ever is left
 
So people actually pay $300 and then not finish the training, or they get kicked out?
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Re: New Car Sales [boomchek] by joel0622
Jan 17, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 17, 2009 9:47 am)

You don't have to pay the $300 until the third day. On the third day the interviewer/trainer tells us who he likes, then we interview and see who we like, then he collects the $300 from the folks we want to hire. Those who we don't want to hire he trys to pitch to them that they can still pay the $300 and his company will place them in another dealer.
 
He usually ends up with about 10 in his class, 5 of them are worth a flip and after all the smoke is cleared 90 days later we end up getting one maybe two good people out of it.
 
They don't really like our store because we are particular about who we hire. They like to go to stores that do cattle calls and hire every one that comes in.
 
Here is the folks we use
  
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by boomchek
Jan 17, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 17, 2009 3:05 pm)

I guess that makes sense. I still wouldn't pay if that was a requirement to get hired.
 
Although when I got into the biz with 0 experience, I did take a week long general car sales course (not affiliated with any dealer groups or brands) and it cost me about $1100. I did it mainly to learn about the industry. The school I took does sales and leasingcourses, business office, and also service advisors and tech training.
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by bolivar
Jan 17, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 17, 2009 3:05 pm)

Ah, overall, somewhat like an employment agency, but one that gives some initial training and evaluation.
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Re: New Car Sales [bolivar] by bvdj84
Jan 18, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: bolivar (Jan 17, 2009 6:44 pm)

Although legit, I would never apply for a job that I would have to pay to get trained. You should be paying me. Obviously, there should be an interview process. This would go over their credentials. I would having experience in customer service as the main requirement for the job. Experience in the field is key. Personally, that is the deal in hiring. You have this, and the rest will fall right into place.
 
  There are many that should not be in this kind of field, because they cannot handle themselves very well. In my experience, many salesmen I have worked with, they come across extremely fake, overly done and desperate. Although, last spring, I had a salesmen treat me very well. I took my time and he was very kind. I bought 2 cars off of him. In management, I would be extremely strict in hiring. The employees must be able to show superb customer service skills. Never, would I let a salesmen let anyone walk out on my showroom upset. My point is, you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. You are on the front line, you must show your best behavior, respect people. Because, remember, we all at some point been on the customers end, and know exactly how it feels. I have no sympathy when salesmen get offended when we are blunt about this. They created this bad reputation all on their own.
 
My point also is, that I am sorry you run your business on a commission based system, that really as a customer is not my problem, or does it matter how you are paid. You have a problem with this, you need to talk to your boss or get a normal job. Dealers could eliminate this rep if they got rid of the commission, and went to salary. This is no way to do business without anyone getting their feelings hurt, also its all about the customer, but yet we often get the short end of the stick. We customers always come out last in the any sale! We drive off in our new car, you go, alright!!! $$$ However, I do not expect you to take a loss on the deal. Do not make me feel bad, or throw up in my face that you are getting nothing on the deal. Not my problem. You chose the job that you are in. If you deny me the deal, well, I'll get it from somewhere else. For me, I just want a clean and fair deal, not robbery. Though, dealers legally rob everyday! Well, legally? hmm... we won't go there... lol Wow I am on a role.
 
It is exactly like this, I ordered from a restaurant, had it delivered, $2.00 delivery charge. Then, asked me if I wanted to put the tip on now or when the driver got to me?.... Well, I told him, I am sorry you do business that way, I gave him $1.00.
This place is already getting $2.00 to deliver, sorry driver, but you need to tell them to give you the $2.00 for you driving it to me. This is not my problem. $2.00 for delivery, and yet you still want tip. It all comes down from a customers point of view, I am sorry you do business that way.
 
The same as a dealership, You chose to be commissioned. You chose to work there. Not my problem. I am only saying all of this, because I have seen so many salesmen, that literally scream out desperate the minute I hit the dealer lot. Here is a $20 for some food, will you back off?
 
haha... wow!! Garbage!
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Re: New Car Sales [bvdj84] by volvomax
Jan 19, 2009 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jan 18, 2009 5:25 pm)

Obviously, you haven't ever sold anything for a living.
 
Dealers put salespeople on commission because its the best way to motivate them to sell.
Realtors sell on commission. Liquor sales, medical sales, equipment sales all commission.
The people who sell advertising on this very website, commission.
 
Salaries work for pencil pushers, not salespeople.
Salespeople are more like artists than anything else. They work best on emotion.
They need to know that the more they sell, the more they will make.
If you get paid the same whether you sell 3 cars or 13 cars, where is your motivation to work harder? Ask a Realtor if they would like to work weekends for a salary.
Heck, even lawyers work on commission.
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Re: New Car Sales [volvomax] by boomchek
Jan 19, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 19, 2009 8:57 am)

Good points Volvomax, but I also agree with bvdj on the point of salespeople "complaining" to a customer that they're not making enough on a deal.
 
It really shouldn't be the customer's concern or problem what our commission is.
 
When I work a deal I never bring my compensation into the equation to try and get the customer feeling sorry for me. I think that's pathetic, and as bad as begging.

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