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New Car Sales by grnerd
Jan 12, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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I am considering a new career in car sales. I live in Grand Rapids, MI, and went to an open interview at the local Toyota/Scion dealership. The interviews and training are being held by TK Worldwide. The guy who interviewed me today was very "salesman", and did not spend a whole lot of time asking questions. Nice enough guy, though. He told me after just a few minutes that "he knows what he is looking for, and that I had it". Sounds like a pitch to me.
 
There is a 3 day training, for which we pay $300, and that the fee is refunded after 90 days of employment. Understandable insurance to entice you to stick it out.
 
My concern is, of course, how much potential is is there realistically in new car sales in Michigan, considering the state of the economy? Am I just blocking out the obvious pitfalls in my search for a new career?
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Re: New Car Sales [grnerd] by boomchek
Jan 12, 2009 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: grnerd (Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm)

I'd be weary of any place that charges you for training. Find out exactly what kind of training this is, whether it's general auto sales training, or something specific to that store.
 
If it's store specific and a requirement to work there, then they shouldn't be charging you in my opinion.
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Re: New Car Sales [grnerd] by oldfarmer50
Jan 12, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: grnerd (Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm)

"...Sounds like a pitch to me..."
 
Sounds like a scam to get $300 from you. Who is TK Worldwide? Do they guarantee you a job at this dealership after your "training"? What happens if the dealer cans you before the 90 days are up?
 
This kind of deal seems to reappear every time there is a recession and people who are desperate let their guard down. I remember back in the 70's I was out of work and ran into a similar offer. This company would train you to sell hospital air filters which were "the best in the business". The fact that they conducted their interviews in the back of a vacume cleaner store made me think twice about the offer.
 
Get all the details before you sign the check.
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300 for training? by jproc
Jan 13, 2009 (2:16 pm)
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I'd run from that place fast.Economy is bad people are out of work and some losers will try and take advantage of desperate people.Training should be either free or you get paid a minimal amount while undergoing it.
 
I lost my job back in may-did some training to be a limo driver and got paid minimum wage.Found out I hated being a limo driver and became a school bus driver.Basically the training there was free although I did get $ 250 when I completed the course
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Re: 300 for training? [jproc] by oldfarmer50
Jan 13, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: jproc (Jan 13, 2009 2:16 pm)

"...Found out I hated being a limo driver and became a school bus driver..."
 
LOL. As a school bus driver myself, I find that very funny. If you think that the fat cats in the limo can be a pain, wait until you have a go-round with some spoiled brat and his obnoxious parents. I wish you luck, you'll need it.
 
Your post did jog my memory Re: the OP's question. I think that in many states, charging a fee for training is illegal. Way back when I trained to be a bus driver they did not pay you but these days the law says you have to be paid at least minimum wage. I think that is true for most jobs where training is involved. I'm in NY state so this may not apply to all places.
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Re: New Car Sales [grnerd] by joel0622
Jan 16, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: grnerd (Jan 12, 2009 12:59 pm)

Its not a scam, its not a rip off, its legit. That is the way many dealers in our area recruit new sales people. We have done it several times. They do the interviews, they do the training, at the end of the third day we interview who ever is left and tell them who to hire. if we really like the recruit and they don't have the dough then we front it for them.
 
You would be amazed how much riff raff $300-$400 will keep away.
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by boomchek
Jan 17, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 16, 2009 3:57 pm)

I guess you could put it that way.
 
at the end of the third day we interview who ever is left
 
So people actually pay $300 and then not finish the training, or they get kicked out?
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Re: New Car Sales [boomchek] by joel0622
Jan 17, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 17, 2009 9:47 am)

You don't have to pay the $300 until the third day. On the third day the interviewer/trainer tells us who he likes, then we interview and see who we like, then he collects the $300 from the folks we want to hire. Those who we don't want to hire he trys to pitch to them that they can still pay the $300 and his company will place them in another dealer.
 
He usually ends up with about 10 in his class, 5 of them are worth a flip and after all the smoke is cleared 90 days later we end up getting one maybe two good people out of it.
 
They don't really like our store because we are particular about who we hire. They like to go to stores that do cattle calls and hire every one that comes in.
 
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by boomchek
Jan 17, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 17, 2009 3:05 pm)

I guess that makes sense. I still wouldn't pay if that was a requirement to get hired.
 
Although when I got into the biz with 0 experience, I did take a week long general car sales course (not affiliated with any dealer groups or brands) and it cost me about $1100. I did it mainly to learn about the industry. The school I took does sales and leasingcourses, business office, and also service advisors and tech training.
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Re: New Car Sales [joel0622] by bolivar
Jan 17, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 17, 2009 3:05 pm)

Ah, overall, somewhat like an employment agency, but one that gives some initial training and evaluation.

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