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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jan 20, 2009 5:54 pm) Then don't order the Pizza. Or go make your own. Being a cheapskate isn't cool. You aren't being frugal or smart with your money, you're being weak.
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 21, 2009 7:22 am) Applying a Salesmen fee or DOC fee to a car deal would be the same thing. Salesmen already gets a commission, why would I feel that I need to pay $50-$400 for a Doc or salemen fee? I hope that $2.00 goes to the driver. Just so you know, I typically tip well wherever I go, but if they do this sort of thing, I subtract the fee off the tip. In a delivery, Tip is the delivery fee. I tip them for taking the food to me, Next, time I order, I will ask though if they give this fee to the driver. I hope so. That is alot of wear and tear on his car. On a $5 sandwich, I am not going to tip another $5 for fees and tip. lol. There is no need to take shots at me. This is not personal. Is the sales profession for me? No, it probably wouldn't be right for me. My experience though does not reflect the "norm" of the industry, but simply stating that I am not the only one who feels this way. Again, its me (customers) sometimes walking in the dealer in this frame of mind, and they might be a very good dealer. It starts the whole experience negatively. I am so guilty of that. That alone would be tough to be in sales, and you might be just a nice guy trying to make a living. You come out to the lot to greet a customer, and they just walk away or shoot you a look, that has to be tough. They are just doing their job, I automatically assume they are out to get me. I have been hosed before, so I keep guarded, but is that fair to someone else that might be truly trying to help you. No. So you are right, perhaps, I am weak. I am not a cheapskate...lol, but just want a fair deal. Maybe I should just suck it up, and don't sweat the small stuff, I do struggle with that.. Sorry.  Anyway, Kudos to all salesmen that can go out everyday and do this. Its a tough market, tough job. More guts than I have. I still think it would be fun though. Selling a Honda or Acura...etc.
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jan 21, 2009 8:58 am) Just like there's various plane tickets that have fees and taxes. Those do not go to to the flight attendants, or to pilots as tips, or to pay them for being there. they go straight to the government and to the airline company. And delivery fee is not a "tip" to the driver. It's a fee you pay for the convenience of not having to go out and get your own food and it covers their hourly wage of the delivery driver as that's what they're probably on. The tip you give them is to make sure your food came fast and warm. It's the same as telling a waitress in a restaurant: you spent a total of 30 minutes attending to us tonight (taking order, bringing food, cleaning up), and I owe you $10 tip, but since you already get paid an hourly wage of $8/hour, I will deduct half an hour wage from the tip ($4), and therefore you'll receive a $6 tip. Anyways, yes back to topic. Salesman shouldn't beg customers that they're not making enough, and customers should tip where a tip is deserved. If you get good service but are too cheap to tip, then make it yourself or pick it up yourself. |
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jan 21, 2009 6:12 am)  Last summer, met a new neighbor at our block party... His in-laws were in town, and came to the party... Father-in-law was the business manager at a Chevy dealership (only a couple of hours from you)... Nice guy.. I think I went through my whole cooler of beer, before I was done with him... 
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jan 21, 2009 8:58 am) I don't know... you've taken quite a few shots here. You've shown you can handle the abuse without flipping your lid. You value every dollar/penny and don't want to leave anything on the table... except a good tip when deserved. You may make a pretty good salesman.
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 21, 2009 12:24 pm) |
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jan 21, 2009 1:50 pm) Now that's something I'd tip to see.
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Jan 21, 2009 1:50 pm) Sorry oldfarmer, isell has first viewing dibs on any strangulations that involve my neck. But, hey... since he never reads my posts anyhow, I'll put you down for a front row seat. 
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 21, 2009 7:08 pm) I think his views on tipping are quite indicative of his personality. Fact is, every year millions of new and used cars get sold by dealers. The vast majority without any hysteria or anger or hurt feelings. There is a small minority of bad salespeople out there, there always will be. You come to place like this,and you hear from a few people and you assume that every car dealer and salesperson is crooked and useless and you simply don't take into account all the transactions that go smoothly. that never get talked about. |
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