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Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe Start problems

180 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 7:57 PM

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Re: difficult cold start [esaxton] by arrie
Dec 12, 2008 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: esaxton (Dec 12, 2008 4:57 pm)

Do you promise to post back if the new fuel pump, that you will be replacing in less than two years since your last one, fixes the problem if I give you my opinion to your question?
 
Arrie
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Re: difficult cold start [arrie] by esaxton
Jan 18, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: arrie (Dec 12, 2008 10:18 pm)

cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needle in my eye. I promise. Sorry, but I haven't been back in a while. But please, give me your opinion.
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Re: difficult cold start [esaxton] by arrie
Jan 18, 2009 (9:57 pm)
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Replying to: esaxton (Jan 18, 2009 5:26 pm)

Ok,
 
The truth often is that a third party part actually is better than a part from the OEM. I ALWAYS opt for third party part if it is available. A simple reason is that if their part does not work they will be out of business so they must make sure, for most of them, that they work as well or better as OEM part.
 
Car dealer shops can screw up countless times with poor quality parts and people keep coming back, until they are out of business when these people finally realize they need to buy something else, i.e. imports.
 
You did not say anything about the fuel pressure regulator. Was it tested? When you check fuel pressure it can be too low for two reasons. Your pump does not give enough flow/pressure or the pressure regulator is bad. As you very recently changed your pump already why not replace the regulator just to rule it out as a possible problem? I does not cost much. I have not changed it but I would expect the part to cost less than $30.
 
Who diagnosed that you have a fuel pump problem? Dealer shop? If so, make sure they do NOT also replace the fuel pressure regulator to make you a happy customer since it seems dealer shops are the worst ones to rip people off and do unnecessary repairs. Worst case would be that they only replace fuel pressure regulator and don't even touch the pump as they could be aware of the "real" problem and know they can get nearly $1000 from you for a $50 fix.
 
I know I sound pessimistic but this car fixing cheating crap is everywhere and you just need to look for yourself.
 
A fuel pump going out in two years is very rare occasion and just for that reason I would replace that fuel pressure regulator before going after that big job. You can do it yourself.
 
Arrie
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Re: '03 Suburban won't start when warm [pmok] by griffin8
Jan 21, 2009 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: pmok (Sep 21, 2008 2:09 pm)

My 1999 suburban is doing the same thing. Did you ever find out if it was the crank sensor, or something else??? I need help!!!
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Re: '03 Suburban won't start when warm [griffin8] by griffin8
Jan 21, 2009 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: griffin8 (Jan 21, 2009 3:44 pm)

I have checked and tightened battery cables, fuse boxes, and made sure I had plenty of gas. The delay is sometimes seconds or could take minutes before the damn thing starts. I just need to know if it is the starter, ignition, without sinking too much money into it.
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Re: difficult cold start [arrie] by bonillot
Jan 31, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: arrie (Jan 18, 2009 9:57 pm)

My 1996 Tahoe has been sitting for about a year (I have to fix the 4WD tranny). I recently decided to start it up. It tries to turn, but it won't crank. It sounds to me like the fuel is not getting to the engine. I checked fuses for the injection system and put in some fuel (6 gallons), but still it won't crank. I thought it may be because it is parked on an incline, but now it has 6 gallons of new gas in it with a bit of Marvel Oil.
 
My wife suggested the fuel pump not working properly and found this forum. Also, I should mention my fuel gauge needle all the way to the right at 3 o'clock ("full" is at 2 o'clock). Your remarks about the fuel pressure regulator sounds like it may be my issue. I've never heard of a fuel pump going out because a car sits (I could be wrong).
 
In the past, I started my old 1966 Mustang that sat in my sisters garage for 13 years!! I have an old Jaguar that I seem to be able to start after it sits for months at a time. Please help! Any advise is welcome.
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Re: difficult cold start [bonillot] by kiawah
Jan 31, 2009 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: bonillot (Jan 31, 2009 2:21 pm)

Pull a couple of the spark plugs after a hard cranking / no start exercise, and see what they look like.
 
Wet with fuel? Carboned up? Fouled out?
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Re: difficult cold start [bonillot] by arrie
Jan 31, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: bonillot (Jan 31, 2009 2:21 pm)

"It tries to turn, but it won't crank"
 
If it won't crank it means that the starter motor cannot crank the engine. As you say it tries to it most likely means your battery is almost all empty. You had it sit for a year, right?
 
Before doing anything else, based on your post you need to recharge the battery or perhaps even replace it. You obviously have another vehicle so give it a jump start.
 
It could be that there is nothing wrong other than not enough juice in your battery.
 
After you jump it or recharge battery and get good crank and if it still won't start post back and we can think of something else being the problem.
 
Depending on the vehicle they pull various amounts of amperage from the battery even when they just sit. In a year it does not take much and the battery goes empty. Unless, of course, you disconnect battery cable while it is sitting.
 
It also is that when battery is low enough that it still barely cranks the engine it might not have enough voltage for a good spark to fire up the engine.
 
I would try to jump it as I wrote above and think other options after that if needed.
 
Arrie
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suburban 1999 stalls bad gas gauge by blackpacific1
Feb 07, 2009 (5:51 pm)
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My wife needed a tow truck today when her 1999 suburban 4wd stalled in traffic. It would simply not start. The gas tank indicated full. When we got it home I checked for spark, good spark. I replaced the fuel filter since I had one laying around, still would not start, but the old filter had a lot of dirt in it. I checked the forums here, and noticed that many suburban and tahoes have faulty gas gauge problems. So I checked the trip meter, which was 562miles. I divided by 13mpg, and it came to around 43gallons. I asked my wife when she filled up last, it was several days ago. I checked our bank records, sure as shootin' it was 4 days ago. She had driven several hundred miles in a Suburban, which "died" on the highway reading absolutely "full". I just put 2 gallons in her, and after a strategic pause, she fired up nicely, purring like a kitten again. I'm not going to mess with the fuel gauge (in the tank), we'll use the trip meter, which is more accurate anyway. When the fuel pump dies on some day years from now, I'll find out what happened to the gauge.
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Re: difficult cold start [arrie] by bonillot
Feb 09, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: arrie (Jan 31, 2009 5:01 pm)

I replaced the battery. I put 6 gallons of gas in. The truck is parked on an incline. Have not changed any filters or anything else. The person at the auto parts store said I should syphon all the gas out totally and put in new gas because the old gas in the tank may have turned to "varnish" as they put it.
 
Any other suggestions?

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