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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [backy]
by GCF
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Dec 27, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 27, 2008 6:36 am)
My neighbor just got a loaded '09 Corolla XLE Auto w/ ESC and Alloys for $16.8K + T&L. A comparably equipped Elantra SE is the same if not a bit more money. With the Corolla he got a safer, higher resale and arguably more reliable car. Given this, I can't think of one justification to buy the Elantra over the Corolla.
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- #186 of 269
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [GCF]
by backy
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Dec 27, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 27, 2008 7:14 am)
A loaded Corolla XLE lists for over $24k with an invoice over $21k; an XLE equipped as closely as possible to the Elantra SE (XM, alloys, ESC, cruise, all weather guard package) lists for nearly $20k and has an invoice of nearly $18k. So either way, your neighbor got a really good deal on the XLE, although there is a $1000 rebate on the Corolla right now and only $500 on the 2009 Elantra SE. I expect the rebates on the Elantra to increase once the 2008s are gone, especially with competitors like Toyota offering such aggressive discounts and rebates.
One justification to buy an Elantra over a Corolla is if the buyer simply likes the Elantra more than the Corolla. That is not far fetched. I happen to prefer the Elantra over the Corolla, except for side impact crash safety of course. CR rated the Elantra over the Corolla also--although I expect they will take away the Elantra's
"Top Pick" designation now that the IIHS side impact crash test has been published.
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- #188 of 269
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End of the "Hyundai Experiment"
by hutch7
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Dec 27, 2008 (4:56 pm)
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After thinking it over I have decided to dump my '08 Elantra and go back to Toyota. I've read all the responses to my last post on the poor side impact data collected by iihs. Either the Hyundai engineers didn't pass their classes in structural engineering or Hyundai Corp. just felt like defrauding it's customer base. Either way I am done with this name plate! 
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- #189 of 269
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Re: End of the "Hyundai Experiment" [hutch7]
by backy
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Dec 27, 2008 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: hutch7 (Dec 27, 2008 4:56 pm)
You have to do what's right for you. But to say that the Elantra getting a "marginal" score on the IIHS side impact test is "fraud" is off base, IMO. Hyundai never claimed the car would get a specific IIHS side crash test score. While the score is disappointing to you and me and others, it's not fraud. Also, if Hyundai's engineers didn't pass their classes, then it appears that the engineers from GM, Chrysler, Mazda, Volkswagen, Suzuki, and Toyota (!) didn't pass their classes either. Their cars also got a Marginal or even Poor score in the IIHS tests on small cars, as did Hyundai on the Elantra (and Kia on the Spectra). Hyundai isn't the only car company that needs to work on bettering its crash protection on small cars.
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- #190 of 269
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Re: End of the "Hyundai Experiment" [hutch7]
by bhmr59
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Dec 27, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: hutch7 (Dec 27, 2008 4:56 pm)
Do you still have the 200 Taurus you bought 2 years ago?
Does it stack up better in side impact tests, by today's measures, than your '08 Elantra?
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- #191 of 269
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Traded the Taurus
by hutch7
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Dec 27, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Nope...traded the Taurus for a nice safe Elantra! Yes....I feel the fool! Good luck guy's, I'll be over in the Corolla forum...
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- #192 of 269
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Re: End of the "Hyundai Experiment" [hutch7]
by GCF
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Dec 28, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: hutch7 (Dec 27, 2008 4:56 pm)
I'm not sure I'd label this a fraud, but it sure doesn't help Hyundai escape the notion that their cars are rolling tin cans.
And while other makes have their problems spots, Hyundai has yet to ever produce a car (not truck or minivan) that received a "Good" side impact score. Pretty sad.
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- #193 of 269
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Re: Traded the Taurus [hutch7]
by backy
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Dec 28, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: hutch7 (Dec 27, 2008 7:38 pm)
Given the high importance you place on IIHS crash test scores, it's a shame the IIHS couldn't get the side impact test result on the Elantra published earlier, so you could have had that info for your buying decision. Actually, I am surprised you didn't go for a small car with known, good IIHS crash test scores e.g. Civic or Versa, rather than the Elantra. Good luck on your Corolla--hope it is everything you are looking for.
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- #194 of 269
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Re: End of the "Hyundai Experiment" [GCF]
by joe97
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Dec 28, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 28, 2008 7:11 am)
Hyundai has yet to produce a tested car (not CUV or minivan) that received a "Good" side impact score.
Fixed. Hyundai Genesis, for example, has not been tested by the IIHS. It has received 5 stars across the board on the government NHTSA test, including rollover rating, a rare thing on the passenger car line.
Just noticed 5 stars across the board occur less than IIHS top picks 
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