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2009 Hyundai Elantra

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#170 of 269
Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [backy] by GCF
Dec 24, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 24, 2008 8:35 am)

Given that 7 small car models can score perfect ratings in all three crash tests, it's obvious Hyundai's engineering ins't up to snuff.
 
The 2009 sonata isn't much better given that it's one of the few cars in the large midsize field that got less than "Good" in side impact.
 
FYI: the Fusion and Milan are IIHS top safety picks, something the Sonata, Elantra, Accent, and Tibby never have received.
 
Given the price of Elantras (even with discounts) are only a bit less expensive than far better cars, it makes little sense to purchase one right now.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [GCF] by backy
Dec 24, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 24, 2008 2:20 pm)

The Sonata does pretty well in safety, IMO, having standard ESC on every trim (something many mid-sized sedans cannot claim) and also having perfect NHTSA and IIHS crash test scores except for Acceptable on the IIHS side impact test.
 
I guess you didn't notice I already mentioned the Fusion and Milan are IIHS Top Picks. However, they still don't offer standard ESC as the Sonata has for 3-1/2 years.
 
Hyundai's larger vehicles, especially their large SUVs and minivans, seem to do quite well in crash tests. For some reason they have trouble on that with their smaller cars, i.e. Accent and Elantra. They'd better realize that kind of safety performance is no longer acceptable, or competitive, if they expect to sell many small cars in the future. With a mid-gen refresh due for the Elantra next year, perhaps it is something they will correct for the 2010 MY, similar to what they did to improve the 2004 Elantra's IIHS frontal crash test results from Poor (before 2004) to Good.
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Re: Chinese elantra [bryan_05] by joe97
Dec 25, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: bryan_05 (Dec 19, 2008 4:37 pm)

It will be in showroom early next year.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [backy] by GCF
Dec 25, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 24, 2008 3:16 pm)

The Sonata went through a refresh in 2009 and yet is still one of only 4 vehicles (really 3 since the Kia is the same car) out of 16 that doesn't get a Good rating in side impact. As for ESC, most Fusions around me are equipped with ESC as a measly 400 buck option so it's essential a "standard" option. The Fusion also has available AWD, something not even available on the Sonata.
 
Back to the Elantra. If history is a guide, I wouldn't expect the Elantra to ever improve it's crash worthiness. For the past 8 years (since 2001) it's either been POOR or MARGINAL. (now to mention the POOR Driver Torso on the 2009).
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [GCF] by joe97
Dec 25, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 25, 2008 7:31 am)

The Sonata went through a refresh in 2009
 
The ratings still reflect that of the 2006 Sonata, it was not re-tested. Ditto on the 07 Elantra, not 09 - IIHS (and NHTSA) do not perform crash test for every vehicle every single model year.
 
And, if history was a guide, then you would have noticed the improvements of Hyundai vehicles, for the most part, in variety of categories, including safety.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [joe97] by GCF
Dec 25, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 25, 2008 11:11 am)

Unfortunately the Elantra and Accent haven't seen much in the way of improvement as they represent the bottom of the safety food chain in their respective IIHS categories.
 
Buying an Elantra in my mind doesn't make economic sense when a similarly equipped (and much safer) Corolla can be had for roughly the same price. Case in point, my neighbor recently purchased a loaded 2009 Corolla XLE Auto w/ ESC and alloys for $16.8K after rebates. The Elantra he priced was actually a bit more money comparably equipped.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [GCF] by joe97
Dec 25, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 25, 2008 12:17 pm)

Then I'd love to hear your definition of improvement:
 
IIHS:
 
Elantra overall ratings:
 
Front: 2001-03 (Poor); 2004-2006 (Good); 2007-current (Good)
Side: 2001-06 (Poor); 2007-current (Marginal)
Rear: 2001-06 (Poor); 2007-current (Average)
 
Granted, still a lot of room for improvment, but you were saying "haven't seen much in the way of improvement" - come again?
 
As for the Accent, it was first tested in 2006, and the only time to date, in its current generation, so no comparisons can be made.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [joe97] by GCF
Dec 25, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 25, 2008 2:04 pm)

No need to get defensive. I didn't realize my comments hit so close to home. sorry.
 
As for "improvement," when you start at the bottom of the barrel (POOR, POOR, POOR), any movement, even if to MARGINAL is "improvement." Though, in 8 years, I guess it's not unreasonable to expect a bit better. Lesser brands have, why not Hyundai.
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Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [GCF] by joe97
Dec 25, 2008 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: GCF (Dec 25, 2008 3:00 pm)

I only listed 01 and 07 results because they were available in all three categories. In actuality, the public data went back to 96, when an average rating was posted on the frontal offset - thus, it went from average to poor to good and good.
 
I've already said there are room for improvement...
 
Of course, you don't expect the Elantra to improve, ever...
#179 of 269
Re: IIHS Crash Side Test results...:-( [joe97] by backy
Dec 25, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 25, 2008 11:11 am)

It appears that the IIHS did not test the Elantra for side impact until the 2009 MY (which is really odd in itself, since the car was redesigned 2 years ago). But the frontal and rear (really a test of the driver's seat, not the car) tests were done on the 2007 Elantra. Since there hasn't been any change to the structure or SRS of the Elantra since the 2007 MY, there really isn't any reason for the NHTSA or IIHS to test again. (But the NHTSA did retest the Sonata for frontal impact at least for 2009, I suppose because there were some changes to the front end. The IIHS has not retested the 2009 Sonata.)
 
While the Elantra has improved in crash protection over the years, it is now uncompetitive in that area. Which is especially strange since Hyundai has touted safety for the Elantra and other models in its brochures and advertising for many years. Less talk and more action is what is needed by Hyundai on crash safety for the Elantra, IMO.

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