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#102 of 138 No Diesel tacoma in near future
Jun 19, 2007 (2:17 pm)
I hate to rain on everyones parade here... but after much research I found that even though Toyota and Isuzu have worked out a deal where "Isuzu will build about 200,000 low emission diesel engines a year", it wont be operational until 2012 when the plant will be open in Hokkaido, Japan!
The good news is that 2011-2012 is when Toyota plans on revealing the new Tacoma model.
Again The Problem is that Toyota clearly states that They dont plan to use these diesel engines in there truck line yet (although they should in the tacoma).
Toyota states: "plans to use the engines in passenger cars sold in Europe" (not US) So yes this is a step in the right direction but if they are only going to implement this technology of the diesel engine in Europe than it will be a while before that comes over to the US and it will be even longer before they put the diesel into the Tacoma!
So if none of this even begins to happen until 2012, then I would suspect it will take at least 2-3 years before they bring that over to the US (by that time its 2014/2015). Than you have to consider since the new tacoma model just came out in 2012 (its currently 2015 if your following) they will most likely wait until they plan to unveil a whole new Tacoma design. Which gong by history toyota tacoma usually changes every 5-8 years give or take.
Also they are most certainly not going to rush putting a diesel engine in the tacoma because its there #1 selling vehicle. So whats that put us at... 2020 at the earliest!
Look Im in favor of the diesel engine and would love to have it I just dont see it happening any time soon and I think that sucks. But the bright side is many things can change between now and even 2012 (let alone 2020). So lets keep our fingers crossed. In the mean time if we want to see speeder results we should all go to Toyota.com and email the development team and tell them of the upgrades we would like in the Tacoma (i.e. diesel engine, sunroof, etc..) and if there are enough of us requesting it that will be the only way they will hear us and maybe get a move on it. (Sorry for the length post)
What happened to our flying cars in year 2020. Man we are behind!
Jun 19, 2007 (9:33 pm)
is for production of 1.6L diesels, which is a pretty small engine for the Tacoma, even if it IS a diesel.
But don't give up just yet. They originally said they would have a diesel for the Tundra by 2009, and I suspect they could offer it in the Tacoma as well. While plans for the Tundra diesel have stalled, I don't think Toyota can afford to wait much longer than 2 years to offer a powertrain for these trucks with better fuel economy. And I'm pretty sure the hybrid is dead in the water, as they focus more on the 3 different upcoming Prius models instead, which have already been delayed six months and are still more than 18 months out.
So cross your fingers for the diesel!
#104 of 138 Re: the Isuzu deal [nippononly]
Jun 19, 2007 (9:49 pm)
Agree. Honda has got the jump on them with diesel. I would prefer an extended cab variant of the Ridgeline with a 3.0 diesel,anyway.
#105 of 138 Re: the Isuzu deal [blufz1]
Jul 06, 2007 (12:38 pm)
I currently drive a 1997 Toyota T100 3.4v6 and 5 speed 4x4. It is now 10 years old and I hope to one day replace it but not till I can buy a Tacoma or Nissan with small diesel and 5 or 6 speed manual and 4x4. I will wait another 10 years if I have to but I can not reason myself into a Gas powered pickup again. Toyota are you listening.
#106 of 138 Re: the Isuzu deal [rcolemanaz]
Jul 06, 2007 (1:43 pm)
I agree. You can reduce the cost of driving by making diesel your next vehicle. Honda has the jump on Toyota w/a diesel Ridgeline coming Fall 08.
#107 of 138 Re: Toyota Diesel [rme]
Jul 08, 2007 (3:26 pm)
I just came back from a vaction tour in Europe and there was a Toyota engineer in the group. I specifically pestered him about a Tacoma Diesel. He basically confirmed the Tundra would have a Diesel within the next 18 months. But as far as the Tacoma goes, it isn't on the 5 year developmnet plan they would to. In other words, with the lead times involved, if it all changed tomorrow and a disel as agreed to, it would be in model year 2013
#108 of 138 Re: Toyota Diesel [ksenator]
Jul 08, 2007 (3:40 pm)
The reason being, Toyota put all their eggs in the hybrid basket and found it was of little value in a work type vehicle. Now they have to start from zero as their diesel engines are all dirty diesels compared to the Europeans and Honda. I am sure their Tundra diesel will be to compete with the fuel guzzling monster diesels from the Big 3. Not anything I would buy.
#109 of 138 Re: Toyota Diesel [ksenator]
Jul 12, 2007 (12:50 pm)
Ummm, why couldn't they just use the diesel from the Tundra until a smaller one could be developed? The Tacoma and Tundra already share the V-6 engine. I would imagine there wouldn't be much work involved in readying the Tacoma for the Tundra's diesel.
They really ought to do this. As mentioned above, the diesel Ridgeline is COMING. For shame, Toyota, get a move on!
#110 of 138 All of you need to open your eyes
Jul 24, 2007 (9:58 pm)
First, i think i might have myself a good long laugh at all of you. Someone said that Toyota could not make enough diesel trucks if that made one? Are you joking! If you look around the only people who drive Toyota's are people who sit at a desk all day and dont really truly use their trucks. You will never in any life time see more then 5 to 10% of the farmers and contractors in this nation driving a Toyota. They are all about supporting America not japan or whom ever else is making this crap. Also the Toyota dealers need to get their facts strait my family owns two Duramax's and a Cummins and when they tell me that their truck can pull more then mine well i almost died. I also saw someone talk about how great of mpg they got well...my 2006 duramax LBZ crew cab long bed dually and it has 360 hp and 650 feet of tourqe...at 65 mph i can get about 23 mpg. so thats something for all of you toyota fans should think about. IF YOUR GOING TO BUY AT LEAST BUY AMERICAN
#111 of 138 Re: All of you need to open your eyes [redchevy1]
Jul 24, 2007 (10:23 pm)
Welcome to the forum.
I think that many of us are hoping for a smaller diesel PU truck. I think the first to the market will have a real winner. I would hope it is one of the Big 3. Ford builds a dandy Ranger diesel for the rest of the World. I would like one for the USA.