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75 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2007 at 8:44 PM
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Replying to: ggurr54 (Aug 18, 2007 10:44 am) Your post was way out of line. You have no idea who I am or the shape I am in. You post shows you have no common sense. |
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 18, 2007 6:25 am) And I just got through saying that people who ONLY ride a bike could not possibly afford to come anywhere CLOSE to paying it. And why not? They have little or no transportation expenses. Why not a fat license fee on bicycles? It is just another form of transportation. I hope you have a license on your Segway...... |
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 17, 2007 7:32 am) My guess is not very darn many. Millions and millions of people do! They are called Children.
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Replying to: im_brentwood (Aug 19, 2007 2:57 pm)  This topic is stupid. Bike paths are good and I see no problem with using some of the highway funds to pay for them assuming they actually go somewhere. If they are just for tourism, parks or recreation then they should come out of the state/national parks budget.
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Replying to: british_rover (Aug 20, 2007 5:12 am) Why should I pay for a bunch of yuppy, save the world radicalist to ride their $3,000 bikes on the highway, where the highway is in pathetic shape, but they have great bike lanes that they DIDN'T pay for. The tax dollars I pay go to those lanes. I'm not talking about the average Joe who rides a bicycle for recreation, I am talking about the ones who push the "we need everything for bikes" deals. If bicyclists want special lanes, then they should have to pay license fees, insurance and taxes. Plain and simple. The problem with this world is everyone expects a free ride. They expect that they should get something on someone else's dime, which is pathetic. Make them pay their fair share.
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Replying to: 0patience (Aug 20, 2007 10:15 am) Ehh after that your argument just kind of fell apart. You don't have much experience making yourself understood without yelling, screaming and generally shouting down the opposition do you? If you want people to listen to you then I would start off NOT, key word there, insulting people.
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 18, 2007 6:59 am) I know my partner in Anchorage pays a lot more property tax than we do in San Diego. Then he does not have sales tax of about 8% and auto license that is out of sight. No income tax that CA has. So maybe he is doing OK. The one bad thing about the trails in Anchorage is many are rather remote from the highways. Several rapes, robberies and murders have occurred on the bike trails. Kind of scary to let your children use them. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Aug 20, 2007 11:20 am) Secondly, I call them like I see them. Most of the people riding on the highways are the same people who drive SUVs (like landrovers), scream about global warming and want the world to change to suit their needs. So yes, they are yuppies, they want to save the world, as long as it doesn't affect their ways of life and they are radicalists. You don't have much experience making yourself understood without yelling, screaming and generally shouting down the opposition do you? You don't know much about me if you think that. Not like I care, but I am curious how you get the yelling and screaming from written words, that one confuses me. I guess the words just scream at you or jump off the page at you?  Interesting how most of your posts are ones where you try and stir things up. Seems to me, you are the one who does most the insulting. |
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Replying to: 0patience (Aug 20, 2007 2:42 pm) I use the rails to trails around me and I am sure I don't qualify as a yuppy,a radicalist(can you even be both?)and I got my bike on e-bay for way less than $3,000. The old train bed they converted to a bike path actually is used for commuting because it parallels a mayor highway and river. It just does not happen to be near where I work. So I use it mainly for trying to get my fat butt in shape and on weekends to take the family down for a ride. I did not know that all taxes collected needed to go back to the people that paid them. I know all the senior citizens in my state will be disappointed when the lottery money has to go back to gamblers for new casinos. Saying that bikes and bike paths are good is kind of like saying mean people suck. It goes with out saying that the are better for the environment than cars and certainly better for your health.
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Replying to: guss (Aug 20, 2007 4:04 pm) Don't be stupid. That is a moronic analogy and you know it. Highway funds are dedicated funds. As such, should go for highways. Recreational funding, such as bike paths, should come from state park and recreational funding and should not be part of the highway. Using old rail paths that are no longer in use is a good form of using resources.
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