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Chrysler Engines in a Sonata?

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Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? by craigbrooks
Aug 10, 2007 (8:29 pm)
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Read in today's Business section that Chrysler was having a discussion with Hyundai about Chrysler/Hyundai swapping engines.
 
Hyundai engines in China made Chryslers and they want Hyundai to let them put Chrysler made engines in American Hyundais.
 
What's wrong with this picture?
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [craigbrooks] by oinktrnt
Aug 11, 2007 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Aug 10, 2007 8:29 pm)

“Read in today's Business section that Chrysler was having a discussion with Hyundai about Chrysler/Hyundai swapping engines.”
 
Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi/Chrysler already share the same 2.4 I4. Car reviewers have reported that it smoother in operation with the Sonata/Optima than the Sebring/Avenger.
 
“Hyundai engines in China made Chryslers and they want Hyundai to let them put Chrysler made engines in American Hyundais.”
 
Then Chinese Chrysler buyers are getting a car with at least one major component that probably won’t break down. I am not currently in the market for a new car, and if I ever am will not purchase ANY Hyundai vehicle with a Chrysler-made engine. In my opinion, Chrysler should have died a ‘natural death’ in the 1980s without a public bailout. The recent purchase of the company is the second time it has been on the ropes.
  
“What's wrong with this picture?”
 
I suppose I am getting off the topic, but here goes: I have lived through the ‘dot-bubble’, the now-crashing ‘housing bubble’ and I observe yet another ‘bubble’: The U.S. is currently borrowing one billion dollars a day just to stay in business and run That Stupid War. I heard on an NPR business show that we are now one trillion dollars in debt to the Chinese. Somehow, they have been allowed to ship tainted products into the U.S. so that shareholders can make even more money. I can’t help but find all this disturbing.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [oinktrnt] by craigbrooks
Aug 11, 2007 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: oinktrnt (Aug 11, 2007 3:26 am)

I totally agree with you about Chrysler. I cringe at the thought of a Hyundai with a Chrysler built and designed engine. I hope Hyundai doesn't bow down to this. They have two very good motors in the Sonata why change this.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [craigbrooks] by joe97
Aug 11, 2007 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Aug 11, 2007 11:01 am)

Agreed. I think the power plants in the Sonata will last for a while. The 2.4L I-4 Theta (aka GEMA), which by the way Chrysler is paying royalties to Hyundai, is very fuel efficient; and the 3.3L/3.8L V6 Lambda will be entering its second generation soon, boasting on the already strong output with more hp and improved fuel economy.
 
Now a Hyundai with a HEMI sounds pretty nice but I hear the new Tau V8 applications isn't too shabby either; with superchargers and engine deactivation up to an estimate of 500hp expected in the range topper 5.5L V8 (along with the 4.6L which will debut in the upcoming luxury RWD sedan and 5.0L, all in the works).
 
Let's see where and if this alliance takes in shape...IMO Chrysler needs it more than Hyundai does.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [oinktrnt] by backy
Aug 12, 2007 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: oinktrnt (Aug 11, 2007 3:26 am)

Hyundai/Kia/Mitsubishi/Chrysler already share the same 2.4 I4.
 
This is not accurate, although a common misconception. There are some common design elements between the 2.4L engine manufactured by Chrysler and the one manufactured by Hyundai (and also Mitsubishi's), due to the alliance between Hyundai, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi, but they are different engines produced at different factories. That accounts for why, for example, the Chrysler and Hyundai engines have different output, different NVH etc.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [backy] by craigbrooks
Aug 12, 2007 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 12, 2007 6:44 pm)

"That accounts for why, for example, the Chrysler and Hyundai engines have different output, different NVH etc. "
 
and a longer life span.....Hyundai of course.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [craigbrooks] by backy
Aug 12, 2007 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Aug 12, 2007 7:07 pm)

Well, consider that Chrysler's engines have a lifetime warranty and Hyundai's have "only" a 100,000 mile warranty (or ten years).
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [backy] by craigbrooks
Aug 13, 2007 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 12, 2007 7:49 pm)

define "lifetime" Backy.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [craigbrooks] by backy
Aug 13, 2007 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: craigbrooks (Aug 13, 2007 2:53 pm)

Doesn't matter how I define "lifetime", it's how Chrysler defines it. And that's public knowledge. It was in all the papers.
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Re: Chrysler Engines in a Sonata? [backy] by craigbrooks
Aug 13, 2007 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 13, 2007 3:14 pm)

I hadn't read Chryslers "lifetime" warranty, just thought you knew what it was. I'll just have to look it for myself.

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