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Article Comments - 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX vs. 2007 Mazdaspeed 3

146 messages,  Last post on Dec 27, 2007 at 3:11 PM

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What is this discussion about? Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA3, Car Comparisons, Hatchback, Sedan

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Comparison Test: 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX vs. 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 - Although the Subaru's 5.9-second 0-60 time is two ticks better than the Mazda's 6.1-second clocking, it's all due to its traction advantage at launch. By the end of the quarter-mile, the two cars are dead even at 14.5 seconds and the Mazdaspeed 3 is going 98.7 mph compared to the WRX at 94.4 mph. Considering the difference in power ratings, none of this is surprising. (more)


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Re: Subaru Gas Mileage [sssfegy] by aviboy97
Nov 01, 2007 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Oct 31, 2007 2:52 pm)

Automatic is more like 95/05, so it's basically a FWD till you spin, then the power gets transfered.It has nothing to do with the automatic, they always use anywhere from 3-10hp from the motor.
 
That sounds like you are saying the automatic Subarus are more like reactive AWD instead of proactive? I don't think that is right.
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Nov 01, 2007 (12:20 pm)
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Re: Subaru Gas Mileage [aviboy97] by roadburner
Nov 01, 2007 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 01, 2007 11:21 am)

That sounds like you are saying the automatic Subarus are more like reactive AWD instead of proactive? I don't think that is right.
 
I thought that the MT Subarus had a mechanical center diff while the AT cars had an electronic one.
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Re: Subaru Gas Mileage [roadburner] by aviboy97
Nov 05, 2007 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Nov 01, 2007 12:59 pm)

I did some investigating, from a trusted source in Subaru technology here on Edmunds, and the manual transmission Imprezas have viscus coupling center diff, and the auto trannys use something else, that is a front wheel drive based AWD system. You were correct.
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Re: Subaru Gas Mileage [aviboy97] by mugwomp
Nov 07, 2007 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 05, 2007 3:51 pm)

Any links to back that up? Thanks...
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Re: Subaru Gas Mileage [mugwomp] by aviboy97
Nov 08, 2007 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: mugwomp (Nov 07, 2007 10:33 am)

I goofed in my statement. The automatic subi imprezas use a FWD biased, not based. Anyways, here is the post:
 
"Crossover SUV Comparison" post #3770
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subarus feel more solid by henry14
Nov 08, 2007 (8:39 pm)
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impreza feels solid and ia as heavy as a camry. Mazda is super light and flimsy and does not do well on crash tests.
Driving in heavy rain in an impreza is a catwalk.
Lossing control in a 4wd traction controlled vehicle is very difficult to do as compared to 2wd car.
Sound of the flat four wins over the mazda.
 
brakes suck on subarus.
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Re: subarus feel more solid [henry14] by roadburner
Nov 09, 2007 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: henry14 (Nov 08, 2007 8:39 pm)

impreza feels solid and ia as heavy as a camry
 
That's supposed to be an advantage?
 
Mazda is super light and flimsy and does not do well on crash tests.
 
Oh really? I guess you haven't seen this:
 

 
The driver hit a tire wall at an HPDE at 100-110 mph(the cause of the crash was due to the driver's failure to keep tabs on pad wear between sessions). No serious injuries. Here's the video-shot from an Rx-7 two cars back.
 
Driving in heavy rain in an impreza is a catwalk.
 
Can't say I've ever driven a catwalk, but I've had no problems driving my Mazdaspeed in heavy rain.
 
Lossing(sic) control in a 4wd traction controlled vehicle is very difficult to do as compared to 2wd car.
 
True enough, which is why traction control and AWD is a good choice for drivers with less than stellar driving skills. That said, the most effective traction control system resides between the driver's ears.
 
Sound of the flat four wins over the mazda.
 
Agreed. Nothing like the sound of a VW Beetle at full battle cry!
 
brakes suck on subarus.
 
Maybe because they are as heavy as Camrys?
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Re: subarus feel more solid [henry14] by aviboy97
Nov 10, 2007 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: henry14 (Nov 08, 2007 8:39 pm)

impreza feels solid and ia as heavy as a camry. Mazda is super light and flimsy and does not do well on crash tests.
 
I have a Impreza, and yes, it feels heavy, but the Mazda3 is not flimsy, and was only tested WITHOUT side air bags back in 2004. The MS3 has all air bags std.
 
Lossing control in a 4wd traction controlled vehicle is very difficult to do as compared to 2wd car
 
Will agree with you on that
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True Limited slip versus brake system based by nemo
Nov 16, 2007 (10:57 am)
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For example the newest GTI has an open diff but the traction control system applies the brakes to the wheel that is slipping. The automatic awd subaru system does a similar deed, but hey your driving an automatic, we know where your priorities are. The speed3 has a true limited slip diff as is should.
 
Still, I'd rather be in a mazdaspeed miata if I could afford a weekend car too.

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