Article Comments - 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si First Drive

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Article comments for First Drive: 2008 Honda Civic Mugen Si Sedan - We will not make Honda's case for it, since a base Si sedan with much of the essential goodness of this Mugen is almost $8,000 less expensive than the Mugen. That's an extra $160 per month, every month for five years, assuming a car loan with a 7.5 percent interest rate. (more)

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#21 of 30 Re: . [artangeljayla] by eldaino Sep 20, 2007 (7:27 am)
Replying to: artangeljayla (Sep 19, 2007 3:19 pm) but you see thats the thing: i think people HAVE been asking for mugen parts, but its always these jdm fanboys who only talk about cheesy things like shiftknobs and body kits...which resulted in what? TA DA! the mugen si. Had mugen understood that WE know they have a civic tuned to 250 hp selling for not that much more than a regular type r, they probably would have given us a more serious car. You know, i'm not totally mad at the mugen si, because i do think its a sharp looking car...it just reminds me of what somone who is really into honda's would do to their si after they bought it. But thats up to that person with regards to what he does to the car and how expensive the parts are for it. It does not mean that it would totally work for the general public, as even HONDA fans are kinda rolling their eyes at the price of the car. You know what? i would even be ok with the mugen si if it was TOTALLY mugen...including the interior and guages and the like. Then i can see it selling for what it does. But the interior looks bone stock except for some badges and the shifter. Had it been totally done by mugen, it would have been much cooler and exclusive. I had a buddy of mine tell me that it will still sell and still hold its value well. I agreed, but when you look at other limited run cars like the old dc5 type r, (the only one we ever got in the states), it had a lot more than just a wing and some exclusive wheels and interior appointments; it was almost a totally different car. Why has honda lost sight of that? Again, if i ever found one that just couldn't sell because of the price and had been sitting on the lots for awhile and the dealer was willing to give it to me for about 25k, i'd take it. but thats really all its worth over the regular si.
#22 of 30 don't feel bad.... by kenlw Sep 20, 2007 (7:35 am)
"i feel really bad now that i bought the 2dr si, on second thought, i can always buy a "legal" turbo/sc once they become available." why? because you bought the sportier version? Sorry, a 4 door sports car is an oxymoron. Sure Porsche makes a 4 door: an SUV! Lambo even has (or had some) 4 door units: TRUCKS. They (Mugen) are obviously playing to the market with the 4 door version, as the 4 door is simply more popular. It doesn't mean it makes a better platform, that it is sportier, or anything. It just means more are likely to buy it. And since it really isn't a performance enhancement anyway, why not put it on the car (4dr) that sells most? Welcome to the world of marketing. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Sep 20, 2007 8:07 am)
#23 of 30 Re: don't feel bad.... [kenlw] by tayl0rd Sep 20, 2007 (8:07 am)
Replying to: kenlw (Sep 20, 2007 7:35 am) ... Sorry, a 4 door sports car is an oxymoron. ... No moreso than a FWD "sports car."
#24 of 30 true.... by kenlw Sep 20, 2007 (8:21 am)
it's why you can safely call an Si (even a 4dr Si) a "sporty" car. Replies to this message: eldaino (Sep 24, 2007 4:58 am)
#25 of 30 Re: true.... [kenlw] by eldaino Sep 24, 2007 (4:58 am)
Replying to: kenlw (Sep 20, 2007 8:21 am) the si is just a 4 door sports compact. and yeah porsche does have a 4 door sports car; its called the panamera, but its not out yet. you can find plenty of four doors that out perform 'sportier' looking or intending cars out there, the line is totally blurred. The civic si 4 door is just a natural successor to the integra gs-r sedan. they are very familiar with the 4 door sport compact.
#27 of 30 C'Mon Honda! by sarahvtec Dec 10, 2007 (11:32 am)
Being a Honda FANatic, I love the fact that Honda is finally getting on the bandwagon and offering factory backed vehicles like the Mugen Si and S2K CR. However, they are going about it all wrong. 30K for a Civic w/no engine mods and who is Club Racer?!? C'Mon Honda! Here's what I suggest: 1. Get rid of all the aftermarket garbage in the parts department and exclusively offer Mugen products for ALL vehicle lines. Sorry King Motorsports. 2. Give us a Type R Civic! And I don't mean a watered down version like the Integra Type R that was offered a few years back. I'm talking about the red carperts, Recaro seats, Brembo brakes, etc. It would be cheaper than a 30K Mugen Si. 3. If you're going to offer a Mugen vehicle directly from Honda, then it should have been a Mugen S2000. We all know Mugen and would rather have that than the CR. In addition, it's easier to accept a higher price tag for a Mugen S2K than a Mugen Si. That about does it Honda. It's not rocket science... Amos Replies to this message: igtufit (Dec 10, 2007 11:55 am)
#28 of 30 Re: C'Mon Honda! [sarahvtec] by igtufit Dec 10, 2007 (11:55 am)
Replying to: sarahvtec (Dec 10, 2007 11:32 am) Precisely. Why is the new VTEC turbo restricted to the RDX? We need a freakin' turbocharged small suv? How about a Civic R with basic ground effects, lowered & tightened suspension, and a chip-tuned turbo engine, combined with the current 18"' wheels & limited slip? Any garage tuner could do that for well under the pretty-but-weak Mugen Si. If Honda wants to keep marketing performance by referencing its race and CAFE heritage, it needs to wakr up & realize that we, the educated, Honda-loving consumer, won't stand for a dressed-up, overpriced, underpowered Si.
#29 of 30 I Bought One by geremych Dec 11, 2007 (12:48 pm)
And that was my first mistake since I owned an 06 SI coupe. When I initially made the decision I assumed a few thing, like at very least a slightly newer car would have the same features recent models but with a few newer improvements. That was my second mistake. Then you can complain about the price yes but again I assumed there was a reason for the stiff price tag, mistake number 3, Thats when it got much worse. I try to use my HFP wheels and tires form 06 to 08.(since wheels that come on mugen stock are summer tires and suck in water) Cant do because of TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system) implemented in 07 not backward compatible $4,800 (cost of HFP equip) down the drain plus I will still have to buy all season tires. Next I had XM ready radio came standard yes I had to install XM receiver a cost of $384 on 06 SI, But mugen 08 did not even come with XM ready radio. This means that a head unit will cost $625 +(125 install) +($384 for receiver and install). Moving on iPod music link, has been temporarily pulled as an option. Great!, since I had one install on my 06 SI. that work perfectly verses not at all. When I complained about it I was given the solution to use AUX input, great to pipe sound through the audio system but you can not change tracks or charge your iPod. Furthermore if you are in and out of your auto as am I the iPod continues to play regardless if you are in your car or not. Eventually burns through the battery and you loose your music half way through a day. Are you tired of reading, well it gets even better or worse depending on you view. NO WHEEL LOCKS PROVIDED!!!!! and if thats not bad enough you cannot even buy wheel locks that match the gun metal gray lugs that come on it. I had HID's installed on my 06 the were plug and play no weird wiring or anything like that. Had dealer install HID in 08 Mugen SI and found out that electrical system is different and now blows fuses upstream from the lights. Meaning once again I cannot have it all of that after spending 30,000. I am going to stop there because if I continue typing something is going to get broken and trust me, after getting bent over financing a new overpriced car I could not afford a new computer as well. That said there are many more things wrong missing or just plane no attention to detail, is bullshit and I am calling Honda out on it I hope this helps other people make more informed decision on the purchase of Mugen SI, and shame on Honda I have purchase 4 (counting above) brand new (I can provide vin #'s) Honda's but at this point I will never purchase another. Unless something is done preferably give me the things I used from my 06 or buy back this overprice flying slug Replies to this message: eldaino (Sep 09, 2008 6:37 pm)
#30 of 30 Re: I Bought One [geremych] by eldaino Sep 09, 2008 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: geremych (Dec 11, 2007 12:48 pm) wow, did you even research the car before you bought it?