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Replying to: xtop (Dec 13, 2007 5:54 pm) A few years? It will debut in Japan on Christmas, and here at the Detroit Auto Show next month. It should be in dealers this spring, or so the rumor goes. But this should tickle your interest: http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/3888 Bob |
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 13, 2007 6:04 pm) Ditto. I've also got a MT XT but towing is the one exception where I think an AT makes more sense. I about burned out the clutch trying to back a loaded Uhaul trailer up a narrow driveway  -Frank
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Replying to: p0926 (Dec 14, 2007 7:57 am) Bob |
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They can be delicate and they do start smelling of burnt lining quickly. We will see what happens over time. Good automatics are better for towing, I agree. I could probably have two clutches put in for the cost in initial purchase and gas mileage with the automatic, however. We will find out next summer. Fred |
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Replying to: aatherton (Dec 13, 2007 6:44 am) |
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Replying to: xtop (Dec 13, 2007 5:54 pm) Seems almost abusive and a terrible price to pay in terms of wear and fuel cost. The XT is not a Cummins. The XT's turbo must be designed for bursts of acceleration rather than steady towing. That was one of the reasons I chose the NA automatic LL Bean for towing. |
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It might be abusive if the vehicle were not so well treated otherwise. The towing only happens occasionally. You might be surprised how much the turbo is called on in ordinary driving. We live in the Rocky Mountains and traverse steep multi-mile grades all the time. The turbo starts to come online as low as 2500 RPM. It actually is more regulated by throttle opening than RPM in most cases. That's why it comes in under heavier throttle applications. It may be "abusive and terrible" but that's the way it is. The automatics are not normally very fuel efficient in my experience. We have several friends with AT non-turbo Foresters and we get better mileage under normal circumstances. The tow-load rating is lower for the automatics as well. I can't afford nor do I want a Cummins or any other diesel truck. The engines alone cost several thousands extra on top of the vehicles which tend to be in the $35-45,000 range. They are, of course, much more durable but the maintenance is rather high on them when it is done properly. We drove a diesel car in Europe and it would be just fine for us but the few manufacturers that offer passenger car diesels in the U.S. are not on my shopping list. That may change. Subaru offers diesels overseas, but not here. If they start offering them here, I might consider buying one. They certainly are good for towing. Thank you for your concern, Fred
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Replying to: xtop (Dec 16, 2007 2:15 pm) Where do you find this? The 2008 brochure says 2400 lbs for any and all, regardless of engine or transmission.
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Replying to: aatherton (Dec 18, 2007 4:33 pm) Sorry for the delay. We just got back in town. The owner's manual, I believe, has different figures for the two transmissions. I will check it again when I get some sleep to make sure. Fred
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Replying to: xtop (Dec 28, 2007 8:10 am) Not exactly. See page 8-19. The figures are the same for the two transmissions. Except, for the AT, the 2400 lbs is reduced to 1000 lbs when towing a trailer on a long uphill grade continuously for over 5 miles with an outside temperature of 104F or above.
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