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VW Rabbit Basic Maintenance Questions

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40,000 mile maintenance by shirotori
Jul 04, 2009 (10:33 am)
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I just had the 40,000 mile maintenance done on my 07 Rabbit; It cost $557....I guess that's why they have the new VW's maintenance free program end at 36,000 miles. For me I have 10,000 miles left (about 6 months) of warranty left. I haven't had any warranty issues with the car thus far except for the iPod adaptor thingy twice. Hopefully the car continues to treat me well after the warranty has expired.
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [shirotori] by backy
Jul 04, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: shirotori (Jul 04, 2009 10:33 am)

What was done for the 40k service? Did it include a brake system flush for example (recommended every 2 years)? My Rabbit will be at 40k soon, but the recommended services in the manual didn't seem like they would cost over $500. It looked to be an oil change plus several inspections mostly. I did just have the brake flush done, since the car was 2 years old and the dealer did it for free (maybe because I pointed out it should have been done to a 2 year old VW Certified car before delivery).
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [backy] by jeffyscott
Jul 04, 2009 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 04, 2009 11:47 am)

VW specifies spark plugs and air filter at 40K mi. They also specify a scan of computers.
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [jeffyscott] by micweb
Jul 06, 2009 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 04, 2009 4:35 pm)

I think I'd rather do the 40k service early, at 35k miles, since on the '09's the full vehicle warranty expires at 36k miles. I'd rather the dealer find an issue or problem while the car is still under warranty. What do you think?
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [micweb] by jeffyscott
Jul 06, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Jul 06, 2009 3:50 pm)

I did a portion of our 2005 Jetta a bit early, I had intended to do it all before the warranty ended for the reason you gave. In our case we were approaching the end of the 4 year b-t-b.
 
Before I got around to it, (at about 3 yrs, 8 months and 27 K mi) a problem occured which turned on the check engine light. So I asked them if the computer scan that they would do would be the same as the one that is part of the 40K, they said "yes", so I figured there was no point in paying for it again.
 
While they had it, I had them do the oil change that was going to be due and I asked them if they would also do all the inspections that were part of the 40K, so that they would be done prior to warranty end.
 
I'm letting the plugs go a few months beyond 4 years, I figure with our low mileage (about 30K now at just over 4 years) that a couple months will not create a problem and the power train warranty is still in effect.
 
They were nice enough to not even charge me for the inspection items at all and it is a long, detailed list. So between that and the free scan, I'll save a bit on the 40K maintenance.
 
I did not do the 4 year brake fluid flush early, I did not figure that would find any potential warranty issues and I am thinking, now that the warranty is over, I'll extend that interval to 2.5 or 3 years, every 2 years seems excessive They did do a brake inspection.
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [jeffyscott] by micweb
Jul 07, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 06, 2009 4:33 pm)

I agree that every 2 years on the brake flush is excessive. Most manufacturers don't even include that in maintenance schedules. While I agree with VW that brake fluid is something that should be changed regularly (since it degrades when it absorbs water - but absorbs water like a magnet - hygroscopic is the technical term) for the average person not living in the hills and not scooting up to 100 mph, maybe every 3-4 years is ok.
 
As to the spark plugs, at least on my 2001 VW Golf, I think 40k was optimistic, and I think that solely because the engine ran a little smoother after the plug change. Mind you it didn't seem to run rough before, just smoother after, so that makes me think 30k for plugs change might not be a bad idea.
 
Sounds like you have a great dealer!
 
I'm thinking now that provided I keep this car longer than my typical ownership period (I plan to - it's really nice), I should get the 40k service done at 30k, and ask the dealer since the oil service is part of the free maintenance, to not charge me for that. But do the other stuff 10 earlier, then repeat at 60.
 
I am also planning on changing the oil every 5k instead of 10k UNLESS it uses a quart every 3k miles like my two former Golfs, in which case after the first 5k change I'll just stick with the factory recommended 10k intervals, adding a quart of oil every 3k or so miles - I think adding the make-up oil will be plenty in terms of making sure the oil in the crankcase has good viscosity and additive levels. I've read a long term long-oil change interval test in which make-up oil is remarkably effective in restoring TBN and additive levels. In other words, you can drain the oil and replace it, or let some of it get consumed lubricating the top cylinder and valve guides, either way so long at you are adding make-up or replacement oil, the engine is protected!
 
I also feel comfortable with this interval since I ran a Chevy Cobalt along my same commute route and that car, spec'd for conventional dino oil, was indicating 11k oil change intervals via the OLM (oil life monitor actually oil life calculator).
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [micweb] by jeffyscott
Jul 13, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: micweb (Jul 07, 2009 7:32 am)

Considering what most mfrs claim for plug change intervals, I was surprised at the VW 4 year/40K. On cars that claim 100K mi for plugs, I've typically gone on a time interval of 5-6 years, which would be 40-60,000 miles for us.
 
Our 2.5 engine does not use much oil. I've added only about 1.25 quarts total, during its entire life...and some of that was added right after a change where they had filled it to just the min level. That's in 30,000 miles, with oil changes every 12 months (typically that has been about 7000 miles).
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [jeffyscott] by shipo
Jul 13, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 13, 2009 6:44 am)

I find the 40,000 mile interval baffling as well. I've been driving cars with 100,000 mile intervals for years now, and even after 120,000 miles, changing the plugs didn't do anything to improve the (already excellent) drivability or fuel economy (also excellent).
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [jeffyscott] by micweb
Jul 13, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 13, 2009 6:44 am)

Thanks for the heads up on your experience, esp. the oil consumption issue. It sounds like you are doing your oil changes "on the calendar" instead of by miles, which is what most manuals recommend (require, actually). I would feel comfortable with 502 oil up to a maximum of 7.5k miles I think. Beyond that I get nervous. I may just do 5k changes they are easier to remember and seem to make subsequent purchasers happier.
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Re: 40,000 mile maintenance [micweb] by shipo
Jul 13, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: micweb (Jul 13, 2009 8:17 am)

FWIW, I've run 502.00 oil (Mobil 1 0W-40 and Castrol Syntec 0W-30) for seven years now (in four different cars), and the worst of the 10 UOAs that I've had done showed that about eleven thousand miles was the limit; all of the others showed more like twelve to thirteen, errr, except the one I had run on my old 530i which came back showing the oil still good (barely) after eighteen thousand miles.
 
Best regards,
Shipo

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