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An Altima Hybrid Buying Experience. Need advice

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Re: The Northern California Market is price competitive for the NAH [kannikanwo] by hiwayman
Aug 21, 2007 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: kannikanwo (Aug 21, 2007 10:31 am)

Fat wallets? Not so much. The cost of living thins those wallets pretty quickly. However, you're probably right, but for a slightly different reason. Since we are used to paying so much more for everything out here, paying a little over MSRP for those that don't do research is not as daunting as it may be in other parts of the country. Additionally, there are so many people out here that there's a much greater chance of a dealer finding someone willing to pay more, than there would be in less populated, and less well-off parts of the country. Our cost of living is equivalent to New York City. Just like New Yorkers, we make impressive salaries in SOME cases (my own salary is, uhhhh...NOT impressive). Just like New Yorkers, we pay exhorbitant amounts of money for simple items. It all evens out.
 
I think if you'd visit California, (California is A LOT more than LA and SF) you might find areas that are very much like yours, both culturally and economically. Believe it or not, all our women are not 6' tall, wear thong bikinis to PTA meetings, and wannabe movie stars. Believe it or not, we can't all afford homes in the Hollywood Hills..... For instance, I have to park my NAH in the driveway, because my garage is where my butler lives...
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Re: The Northern California Market is price competitive for the NAH [hiwayman] by hiwayman
Aug 21, 2007 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Aug 21, 2007 11:05 am)

Additionally, the Bay Area (where I live) is the hotbed of hybrid technology, both for purchasers and for research. Priuses travel in herds around here. It actually feels pretty good to cruise around in a hybrid that ISN'T a Prius (well, at least in the body style anyway; we all know Nissan's dark secret about "their" technology). This being such an environmentally-oriented area, anything that seems EC (Environmnetally Correct) demands a premium. I wouldn't doubt for one minute, considering the culture, that we pay too much for hybrids, when compared to the rest of the country. On the other hand, if you want to buy a Hummer, they're selling at below invoice. Hummer dealers can barely GIVE the things away.
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Re: The Northern California Market is price competitive for the NAH [hiwayman] by tomscot2
Aug 21, 2007 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Aug 21, 2007 11:10 am)

Here in San Diego and Orange Counties the market for NAH with TECH package is very competitive. If a dealer gets one, they don't even load into their computer inventory, just put on the lot and sell it in a week. They do have 3-5 of the other NAH models on the lot and you can deal on those.
 
We got our NAH with tech package for $500 below MSRP on Memorial Day Weekend. It was one of those that was not listed on the computer and even some of the sales people didn't realize that they had a Tech package NAH on the lot. We felt very lucky to get the $500.
 
BTW, we love our NAH and the mileage is improving with every tank of gas.
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Alas by pf_flyer HOST
Aug 21, 2007 (12:40 pm)
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We don't have the NAH available here in central PA so I can't even test drive one right now. I want to see how it compares to my current Altima. Should make a good entry for the Alternate Route
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Re: Alas [pf_flyer] by hiwayman
Aug 22, 2007 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 21, 2007 12:40 pm)

Central PA? Beautiful country! Way back in the dark ages when fuel prices were tiny and cars were huge, I had a girlfriend in the area. I always enjoyed the drive down from Massachusetts to see her.
 
Well, for those that don't have the opportunity to drive an NAH, I can say that it is a far cry from a Prius, even though they share hybrid technology. The Prius has a 1.5 liter engine, and the NAH a 2.5 liter. Of course the NAH gives up gas mileage to the Prius, but having driven both a NAH and a Altima V-6, I can say that the NAH comes somewhere in between a 2.5 and a V-6. It SEEMS very close to a V-6 to me, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. At any rate, it's a fun car to drive, and the central location of the battery gives the car nice balance between front and rear. I wouldn't taunt a Z-car on a twisty road with the thing, but it IS fun and comfortable, and I can "squirt" from lane to lane in the gawdawful SF area traffic with ease.
 
As we're learning to drive the NAH, we've found ways to tease the car into EV mode at speeds up to 40 MPH. It's a very delicate "dance" however, and any tiny mis-step on the accelerator brings the ICE into play. Oddly enough, in stop-n-go rush hour traffic, I find myself smiling, as I creep forward on electro-motive power. People must think I'm crazy.
 
It sounds kind of silly, but one thing I wish hybrids would do would be to have an illuminated hybrid badge on the car that lights up whenever the car is in EV mode. That would drive the point home to other drivers that the car is indeed doing good things.... Since the cars lack that capability, maybe I'll just use one of those C02 powered horns, like they use at football games.....
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CA by townboy325
Aug 22, 2007 (9:51 pm)
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U hardly get much discount on Tech Pkg. but most i heard pay around or few hunder less than MSRP from nissanclub... but not like u guys dealer offer way over MSRP. Also for the Cov. PKG u'll get way below invoice. Like myself i got my like 3 month ago for 24020 which about 1200 under invoice at the same day i saw online ads. on SF which 700 cheaper than my and has few of them not just 1... also saw that on newspaper for the last couple week the Cov PKG for 24000, also today i saw on of the ads on Freeway has 1000 REDATE on hybrid,i guess this good news for who haven't gotten the Hybrid yet. Also 08 should be on the way soon why not wait if they not willing to gave u the deal u want.
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Re: CA [townboy325] by emgr
Aug 23, 2007 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: townboy325 (Aug 22, 2007 9:51 pm)

Read my responses from several weeks ago about what I decided to do.
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Re: Alas [hiwayman] by langjie
Aug 23, 2007 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Aug 22, 2007 5:24 pm)

haha, that would be great, but would probably cost a pretty penny to add to the car
 
i used to hate traffic so badly when i'm driving on the pike...alas, i don't mind it as much anymore =D
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Re: CA [townboy325] by hiwayman
Aug 23, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: townboy325 (Aug 22, 2007 9:51 pm)

The Tech package here in SF area is very hard to find, for some reason. It seemed, when we were shopping, that the cars with the Convenience Package didn't really even exist except in the dealers' minds. The low-end NAHs were reasonably available. I do know that at the dealer we finally purchased from, we knew the salesman personally, and he called us to give us a heads up that 5 tech packages were on their way in. By the time we got to the dealer the next day, only two were left (fortunately, one was just exactly what we wanted, color-wise). They hadn't even hit the dealership computers, yet, and were already reserved with downpayments. Since then, or salesman has told us that they've looked all over the state for tech packages, and no one is willing to swap/sell them to his dealership because they go so fast, at such a good price (for the dealership). I know that dealerships will put ONE car in their ad at a good price, but I have yet to get there before the car is gone (maybe to the dealership owner's son-in-law? )
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Re: CA [hiwayman] by emgr
Aug 23, 2007 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: hiwayman (Aug 23, 2007 12:33 pm)

Your experience is duplicated on the East Coast as well. Matter of fact, many dealers complain that the West Coast dealers are getting all the tech packages. Go figure.
 
I am not sure who I believe anymore but I do know there is a definite projection problem at Nissan in figuring what they should produce for sale.

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