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Volvo XC70, Volvo V70, Future Vehicle, Wagon
#79 of 98 Re: XC70: Old or New Version? [qbrozen]
Oct 21, 2008 (2:20 pm)
The problem with my 08 XC70 is that I have to put my foot into it to get the get up and go out of the car. To tell you the truth I did try to purchase a new 07 model but the dealer was set on gouging too much out of me for it.
My 02 XC70 did not have a vibration problem. Ergonomically I find it to better "inside" than the 08 model. Some of you may notice the inside layout of the new XC60. It is interesting that Volvo has turned the console slightly towards the driver, which imo is a much more attractive design, not to mention easier to use.
It is great to see all the comments regardless of your opinion.
No word from Volvo yet regarding the problems with my car. I think they sprayed the rear hatch with lubricant to keep it from squeaking so much.
#80 of 98 Re: XC70: Old or New Version? [jim314]
Oct 21, 2008 (6:37 pm)
We bought a bunch of inserts and even a cross engine bay support bracket from IPD and installed them with no noticeable effect. We however didn't test them scientifically and don't tow with it. As people who over-maintain vehicles, we do think we did the right thing for the '01 XC70 and the upgrades weren't a lot of money.
Regarding maintenance. I always go the Mobil1, more frequent oil change, frequent car detail, impeccable maintenance route. I figure that if we get just one more year out of a vehicle we will have $aved a bundle on depreciation and sales tax. Food for thought: we bought a new 1987 Ford XLT Supercab with every option possible, 22 years ago. It has been a pleasure to drive ever since on weekends. We have gotten every dime out of the 18K we paid for it. Had we bought new stripper pickups without AC. power locks, windows, cloth seats, etc. we would have dumped them after 3 or so years and paid perhaps 70K over the last 22 years.
#81 of 98 Re: XC70: Old or New Version? [blckislandguy]
Oct 21, 2008 (8:35 pm)
There may be something else causing the vibration in my 04 V70. But when I put the insert in the upper twist control mount, I tightened it up and noticed more vibration right away. Then I loosened the nut/bolt in the insert and as I recall the vibration disappeared, but I later retightened the nut because I thought it was supposed to be tight and just accepted the vibration. An independent Volvo shop told me the nut/bolt was supposed to be tight. The OE was tight. It has been over a year since then and I have not reviewed the situation.
Maybe I am exaggerating the amount of vibration. Some reviews of some of these aftermarket poly inserts reported vibration with the auto tranny in drive at idle and, well, the power of suggestion. . . In the 04 V70 the upper twist control mount ultimately connects to the strut tower bar which is itself atached through rubber bushings. I don't see how vibration could be transmitted through all this. But from its construction I recall that the OE rubber mount was asymmetric -- stiffer in one direction and softer at 90 deg. The poly mounts are radially symmetric.
I do know that there is a very considerable difference in steering wheel engine vibration between my '04 V70 and my wife's '07 XC90 3.2 inline 6.
#82 of 98 Re: XC70: Old or New Version? [nibs]
Oct 30, 2008 (3:15 pm)
Took a 2009 XC70 T6 with 4C chassis out for a test. The T6 is imo a much better feeling car. There is competent output from the turbo charged motor and the 4C enhances the driver/road feel. Not only that, but I didn't hear the constant creaking I hear in my 08 model.
Does anyone know if dealerships (including Volvo) sell repaired crash tested or damaged vehicles as new? If so how do I find out if my car was damaged prior to delivery?
As for my situation with Volvo, as expected they want to do the very least and will not admit failure of the car.
#83 of 98 Re: Volvo 08 XC70 update [nibs]
Nov 08, 2008 (1:20 am)
Have you looked into the CAMVAP (Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Process) program? It is a mediation/arbitration process administered by the provincial BBB. It costs you nothing other than your time, but it can be an effective way to deal with the manufacturer if you feel that you're stuck with a lemon and the manufacturer is stone-walling you. I used it some years back against Honda, and the arbitrator ruled in my favour and Honda was forced to buy back my Prelude at full price.
#84 of 98 Re: Volvo 08 XC70 update [bodble2]
Nov 11, 2008 (3:02 pm)
I read about it. I must say though that I am thoroughly disappointed with Volvo as this is my third Volvo car. In today's marketplace I think they should take every opportunity to achieve positive feedback.
#85 of 98 purchasing loaner 2008 V70 from dealer
Nov 19, 2008 (4:32 am)
Looking into purchasing a 2008 V70 used as a loaner, how does one properly determined a fair purchase value for such cars. There are a couple of cars in the dealership that have different mileage on them (2,000 to 6,000 miles). Typically, how much of a discount from invoice should one expect? Or should invoice be the starting point at all for determining a fair purchase value? Thanks in advance for any advice.
#86 of 98 Re: purchasing loaner 2008 V70 from dealer [bsy]
Nov 19, 2008 (11:52 am)
For me, it is a used car, period. I don't care if it was never titled. So I'd find out, if possible, what its worth as a trade-in and work up from there.
#87 of 98 Update
Nov 21, 2008 (1:53 pm)
Temps have cooled off and early morning frost has become the norm. Went outside on Wednesday, opened the drivers side rear door, placed my briefcase in and then shut the door. Upon getting in the car and starting it up I noticed that the rear door open indicator was on. I got out and opened and closed the door again. No luck, the light stayed on. Finally got the car into service today and the door lock module is faulty.
Also the rear hatch foam was replaced in an effort to reduce the noise coming from the tailgate. No luck there either. I think this is the car that Jack built.
Run people run.
#88 of 98 '08 vs '07 comparision
Dec 10, 2008 (4:14 pm)
My wife has an '07 XC70 which I drive occasionally. While we were on a recent trip we were rented a car which to our suprise was an '08 XC70. Based on that rental there is no way I would change her '07 for an '08. The 3.2 on the new model is MUCH louder when you step on the gas and MUCH less powerful at lower speeds. I think the noise on acceleration is the worse of the two. Hopefully for Volvo the '09 turbo solves both those problems.
Other items of I noted between the two years:
Where the "08 is better in my opinion:
1. Quieter and less wind noise. (Unless you are passing a car and step on the gas)
2. The interior is classier.
Items I can't believe Volvo has done or not done:
1.One of the reasons I bought the Volvo was for safety reasons. One of the options I insisted on my wife's '07 was the Xenon headlamps. ( I think it listed for less than $800 and came with the ABL feature, which I have on my car too, but could do without). However I view being able to see well at night an important safety issue and the Xenon lights improve that situation.
Now it appears as though you have to buy a $2000+ package to get Xenon. That is crazy.
2. On both the '07 and '08 I am irritated that the sun visor doesn't move down the metal rod to block the sun when you move it to the driver's door.
3. Although not a safety issue, an annoyance - the headlamp lighting system is really not totally automatic. Unless you want to have the headlamps on all the time, you have to manually turn the switch at night to the on position if you want to use the high beams.
4. I did not care for the new key, it seems as though it is something that will eventually break and in the interim is a pain,
Although the above are complaints, I really like my wife's car for many reasons.