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#49 of 98 Nine power train choices available in UK vs one in US
Jan 08, 2008 (9:56 am)
Go to http://www.volvocars.co.uk/NR/rdonlyres/54532EF5-8A5E-4F25-8539-1C29145ACD97/0/V- - 70MY08NovPricelist.pdf and scroll down to the engine choices and further down to the fuel consumption of these choices. These mpg values are mpgUK which are to be divided by 1.2 to get mpgUS. Alternatively, divide the fuel consumption in metric units (L/100 km) value into 235 to get mpgUS.
I wish Volvo would offer some of these more fuel efficient engines in the US. The 2.0L 4-cyl engines (diesel and gas) may be from Volkswagen. The 5-cyl engines are made by Volvo, and the 3.2L I6 is Volvo designed but manufactured at the Ford engine plant in Bridgend Wales. The smaller displacement engines are more fuel efficient aren't they? I suppose that these lower hp engines would not attract many buyers in the US. The diesels would attract buyers but right now they cannot be sold in the US presumably because they don't meet US environmental regs. Also Volvo may needs all the diesel engines they can manufacuture to satisfy the demand in Europe. I have heard that within two years Volvos with diesels will be available in the US.
The UK fuel economy extra-urban test values may be biased high relative to the US EPA values. Of course it is possible (even likely) that the 3.2L I6 engine is tuned differently for the UK sales than the US.
In the UK the 2008 V70 3.2 Geartronic is rated (extra urban or highway) at 36.7 mpgUK so 36.7/1.2 = 30.6 mpgUS. Starting with the metric value given 7.7 L/100km => 235/7.7 = 30.5 mpgUS highway. The urban (city) est is 18.3/1.2 or 235/15.4 = 15.3 mpgUS.
In the US the 2008 V70 3.2 Geartronic is rated at 16 city and 24 mpg highway. What are the sources of this difference in est mpg values between the UK and the US highway? The city values are the same.
#50 of 98 Re: Nine power train choices available in UK vs one in US [jim314]
Jan 08, 2008 (10:48 am)
What are the testing procedures in the UK?
I believe the EPA now runs at like 70 or 75 mph? maybe the UK procedures call for lower speeds?
#51 of 98 My 2008 XC70 in a nut shell
Jan 17, 2008 (6:16 am)
I am here searching for issues reported by current 2008 XC70 owners. I see allot of postings about price so I will provide that info.
I leased my 08 XC70 back in October for $520 per month for 30 months with 10K miles per year. It had an MSRP of $45095. I only paid Tax, tags and $500 deposit. This was the best deal I could find in my area. My friend leased one just after me with an MSRP of 42K and some change and he is paying $700.00 per month...OUCH.
I love the car, it is very luxurious and has some cool features like the Personal Car Communicator, and Blind Spot Warning System. The down sides have been poor gas mileage that is usually around 17-18 mpg in mixed driving but mostly highway and a problems with rattles and steering issues.
The rattles for the most part have been toned down by the service departments efforts but are still present to a certain degree. The steering issues have remained unresolved to date after 4 repair attempts. The car makes a popping or clunking sound the subframe is flexed during turning such as leaving a parking lot. I have put in a complaint and hope the car gets replaced under the lemon law.
Currently we are having our first winter storm and instead of driving the in the safety of our AWD Volvo we are commuting in a Prius. Our Volvo remains in a million peices at the dealer with the front end torn apart. I am affraid of what new issues will come up once it is "thrown" back together.
On a better note, my friend has not yet had any issues with his XC70 so it may be that I just got a bad apple. Good luck to those of you getting ready to purchase a new one. You may need it!!!
#52 of 98 Two months with an 08 XC70
Mar 02, 2008 (9:05 am)
Traded my 02 XC for the 08. I find the more I drive the 08 the more I like the 3.2 engine. It is definitely strong enough for the XC and it loves higher RPMs. The handling of the 08 is considerably better than earlier models. The adaptive steering is nice in town and on the highway.
I live in an area that has five months of nasty Winter conditions. I've installed four Goodyear Nordic tires this Winter and the XC is like a tank. It loves the snow and leaves the 4x4s in the rear view mirror.
What would I change??? I'd like the telescoping steering to extend a little further and I'd like deeper leg room while bringing the dash closer to the driver. I'd also like the console turned a little towards the driver as I like that cockpit feel. I would also like the console and shifter raised.
I'm waiting for swedespeed tuning products to hit the market.
#53 of 98 Anyone know of any other Incentives & Rebates being offered on 2008 V70?
May 31, 2008 (8:11 pm)
...apart from those listed on Edmunds(1K cash to cust owner loyalty & 2K manufacturer to dealer)?
(new to the group and still trying to navigate my way through, thank you for your patience).
#54 of 98 Rattles
Jun 20, 2008 (4:33 pm)
So many rattles with the 08 model compared to my 02. I thought this vehicle would be tight as drum. Most of the noise comes from the new rear hatch. Why change the things that work? I think Volvo should have went the extra mile with this new model and tried to cut the vehicle weight to make it more nimble. Fuel has been averaging 13.3 per/100 KMs. Not great by any means. I expected better. Thinking of trading it for a new 2007 model.
#55 of 98 Re: Rattles [nibs]
Aug 04, 2008 (5:30 pm)
What kind of driving are you doing that gives 13.3 L/100km? This is 17.7 mpgUS or 21.2 mpgUK. Based on my experience with the 3.2L inline 6-cyl in a 2007 XC90, I would think you would get 8.4 L/100km on the highway with the '08 V70 (28 mpgUS and 34 mpgUK).
The 3.2L inline-6 ought to be a much better engine over the long haul than any of the 5-cyl ones. And the '08 V70 has a shorter turning radius than the older model. Of course the 3.2 is not going to get as good a fuel economy as the non turbo 5-cyl, but it may be about as good as the turbo ones.
#56 of 98 Re: Rattles [jim314]
Aug 05, 2008 (2:47 pm)
I actually drive mostly highway. I average 110-120 kph or 70 mph. This XC70 is heavier than the old version and if I had my time back I would have kept my old XC. I just had it in for its first service ($200.00). The power tailgate has given out, been in twice for this now and still not working (only 10K on the car). The old saying is "don't fix that which is not broken", Volvo imo did just that. The car is heavier, thirstier and now more breakdowns. Luckily I've got warranty but then again for the price of the car I and the brand I shouldn't have to be concerned.
Volvo should have looked to make the car they had lighter, faster and more efficient yet still comfortable. I believe that Ford ownership has done little to keep the Volvo image of reliability and quality alive. This thing creeks like an old rocking chair on a bad floor. Do yourself a favour and buy a German car. This is my last Volvo.
#57 of 98 my review of the 08 v70....
Sep 08, 2008 (6:33 am)
we have a 3 year old subi legacy gt limited wagon and my wife has been looking for something a bit more 'upscale' so i suggested we look at the redesigned v70 wagon. we have never been in a volvo before as i always found them too 'stodgy', and recently some have had less than stellar service histories...but since she doesn't want a german car, and we've owned many saabs over the years, thought it might be time to have an open mind and so we went to our local volvo dealer.
on the plus side, i'd say the v70 isn't bad looking. it's no audi, but inside and out has improved a lot. the interior fit and finish are really nice, and my wife found the seats to be pretty comfy (a big problem for her--short legs/long torso). there are some nice features on the car as well (power rear liftback, some of the 'tiedown' stuff back there, etc).
we went for a test drive in the car and she generally liked the way it drove--solid but without harshness. but here we expose one of the real weaknesses of the v70--the drivetrain. in what is meant to be this price class ($40k msrp on the car we drove) this is a decidedly mediocre drivetrain. not much power with pretty lousy fuel economy. volvo/ford need to take a pick here--either offer an engine/transmission that shines in terms of power or one that does well on fuel. by my read the v70 isn't even all that heavy, so it must be the engine itself. they need something like the vw 2.0t/dsg combo, which we have in one of our other cars and is a great combo of decent power with good efficiency.
so the powertrain is a big negative in my book, and the other is price. i don't know how big the discounts are on this car, but to me this should be more like a $30k rather than a $40k vehicle, especially with the lack of some features (xenon, ipod interface, etc) as standard equipment.
so i think we're going to stick with the subi for now, and maybe will look for a good used one in the $20's somewhere. we didn't get into price with the dealer so maybe the discounts are huge, which i think they need to be to move these cars.
#58 of 98 Re: my review of the 08 v70.... [cohenfive]
Sep 08, 2008 (8:15 am)
My wife has an 07 XC90 with the same 3.2L inline-six as in the 08 V70. This is the new Volvo-Ford short inline six or si6, max 235 hp and about 235 lb-ft torque. It is very smooth and allows actual 24-26 mpg hwy in the XC90 at 65-70 mph. I would bet that in the V70 it will give close to 30 mpg highway at 70 mph, driven carefully. I get 34 mpg hwy at 75 mph in my 04 V70 168 hp 2.4L 5A.
The 6A tranny in the 08 V70 is probably made by Aisin in Japan and ought to be very good. Want to accelerate in the V70? Lay into the accelerator with abandon. The engine is designed to give decent mpg driven carefully and to deliver hp and torque when you want it.