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Oldsmobile Intrigue Starting/Stalling

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Re: please help!!!! [bold_1] by moonshadow
May 24, 2009 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: bold_1 (May 23, 2009 6:44 am)

I recently changed the oil on my 3.5 with 169k, and added a bottle of lucas oil Fuel injector treatment; then the problems started.
Tthis sounds like the treatment went into the crankcase. I hope it's just grammar.
 
How much stuff did you use and how much gas was in the tank?
What mileage have you added to the odometer since the treatment?
Why do people use these snake oil concoctions?
Proper reputable gas has injector cleaners in them already?
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Re: 2000 Intrigue Starting Issues [ffresh420] by fade
Jul 10, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: ffresh420 (Jun 26, 2008 8:38 am)

This really is getting old. During the colder weather, my Intrigue started almost every time. Now that SoCal is experiencing a heat wave, it never starts on the first attempt. I did resolve my dash light, turn signal and headlight flashing issues by taking out the fuse block (passenger side-interior), underhood relay/fuse block and BCM and thoroughly cleaning all contacts. I pulled every fuse, cleaned their contacts and replacement them after coating with all weather contact lube. I pulled all the ground wires, burnished the contact areas, and also lubed with contact lube. To date, I have not experienced the holiday light festival and my turn signals have worked flawlessly. Good news on the highways out here.
But the start issue is still with me and as bad as it ever was. The mechanic where I take it for my oil changes swears its a starter going bad. Won't start cold, but always when it warms up. I've seen other posts that contradicted that so I'm understandably leary. I'm also leary of the alternator fix, but haven't seen enough feedback from folks who've gone that route to be confident.
But I also can't think of anything else. In the last several weeks if it takes over a minute or so to start, the SEL comes on and I blow white smoke from the tailpipe. The SEL typically goes out the next morning if it starts in a reasonable time. I've always believed I'm damaging things by trying and trying to start it. Every time the key is turned off, then back on the fuel pump starts again. That leads me to believe the injectors are probably dumpling some fuel into the chambers causing the smoke when it finally fires up. Anyone else have any new thoughts on this issue?
Fade
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cheaper starter by wickline7
Jul 12, 2009 (10:30 pm)
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i have 98 olds intrigue with a 3.8 it came with a gear reduction starter cost $200 i found that an early 90's gm direct drive starter will fit probly any 3.8 just make sure the bolt holes are the same the gear has less teeth but sets closer to the fly wheel i got mine used but even new would be much cheaper and works great
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Re: 2000 Intrigue Starting Issues [fade] by dtownfb
Jul 13, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: fade (Jul 10, 2009 11:45 am)

The main thing is you need to find out why the SEL came on. You probably have a code stored in the computer and can get a auto part store to read it for you. Make sure you get the actual number of the code.
 
have you experienced any other drivability issues like stalling? It sounds like you may have a problem with the ignition switch esp since it seems so erratic and has been happening for some time. The ignition switch is a very common repair in this car. Also you need to get the car scanned to see what is going on with the SEL.
 
As far as the white smoke, check your coolant level.
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Re: 2000 Intrigue Starting Issues [dtownfb] by fade
Jul 13, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jul 13, 2009 8:43 am)

I'll have the SEL read although its currently not on. The coolant level is fine. Changed coolant and thermostat last summer at 100K miles along with belt. Hopefully no worries there. The car seems to run flawlessly at all times, it just won't start.
However, I now have a third issue. Today on the way to work, I had the usual stop-and-go for about 5 miles. When traffic finally broke free, I stepped on the gas and out the tailpipe came large billowing blue clouds of smoke. It actually ran fine, just blew smoke for about a mile, then quit and ran perfectly all the way to work, about another 5 miles. When I started it this evening, it blew a small amount of blue smoke, then I didn't notice any additional smoke the entire commute home. I checked the oil and I'm down almost a full quart even though the oil was changed just two weeks ago. I normally lose a quart between changes, but I've never lost this much this quickly. Any advice from the real mechanics out there?
Gary
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Re: 2000 Intrigue Starting Issues [fade] by dtownfb
Jul 14, 2009 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: fade (Jul 13, 2009 6:55 pm)

Blue smoke? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_blue_smoke_coming_out_of_tailpipe
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99 intrigue wont start. by ridgerunner835
Jul 22, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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99 intrigue wont start. by ridgerunner835
Jul 20, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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my step son's 99 intrigue with 140K miles 3.8 engine ,started running rough today and nearly died while on the road,he was able to get it into a parking lot and he shut it off and it would not start back.it kinda just acted like the battery was weak,it would attemp to turn over,then just click.i was thinking alternator ,so itook the battery(known to be good) out of my silverado and tried it and got the same results.has any body ever had anything like this to happen to them with this kind of car?i was not with him so i don't know for sure what it started doing when it nearly stalled or he didn't know what kind of dash lights came on,he did notice the check engine was on right before he shut it off. thanks for any advice on this problem.i will let you know what is found.
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Re: 99 intrigue wont start. [ridgerunner835] by ridgerunner835
Jul 22, 2009 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: ridgerunner835 (Jul 20, 2009 5:31 pm)

the problem turned out not to be electrical,like i suspected.my mechanic found that the intake plenium was cracked and allowed dex cool to leak into the top of the engine,which essentially locked it up after it was shut off.after the spark plugs were removed the engine would turn over which also allowed most of the dex cool to be blown from the cylinders.after a new plenium,new set of plugs and plug wires for good measure(damaged some of the old ones trying to remove them from the plugs),the car is back to running perfectly.i think it was pure luck that the engine(piston rods,valves) was not damaged after trying to crank it so many times.
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My Olds is sick by olds409
Aug 22, 2009 (3:21 am)
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My intrigue is giving me a camshaft sensor circuit fault.I replaced sensor still have fault.Replaced PCM fault is gone but now it wont crank.Did passlock relearn,nothing.What can cause a no-crank? Before it would not crank but at least it told me why.

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