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#61 of 207 inner door seals by 99towncarexec Nov 14, 2008 (11:09 am)
Anybody have a clue where I can get inner door seals for the Lincoln.I believe that's my leak issue.I know Ford can get them,anywhere else? Replies to this message: robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 6:45 am)
#62 of 207 Re: inner door seals [99towncarexec] by robkstone Nov 15, 2008 (6:45 am)
Replying to: 99towncarexec (Nov 14, 2008 11:09 am) 99towncarexec: I'm curious- How did you determine that the inner seals are what you need to replace? Have you actually seen the water coming in from that area? I was thinking after I did my repair on the fresh air vent, I would sit in my car while someone ran a hose over it and see if I could spot where any other leaks could be. By the way if your inner seals are rubber and they are painted the same color as your car then the car has been repainted. My seals are black rubber(if it's the same thing we're referring to.
#63 of 207 Re: Water leak-update 10-28-08 [ralka] by robkstone Nov 15, 2008 (7:07 am)
Replying to: ralka (Oct 31, 2008 10:12 am) ralka: started my repair to the fresh air vent assembly-the first thing I noticed was the black plastic piece that is the windshield cover held on by two long black plastic screws has a foam gasket-mine was loose so I reattached it using weatherstrip adhesive. Then I removed the next plastic piece that has the 5 8mm screws and the two 11m nuts. The gasket on mine was in good shape but wet. So now I can see the screen and the foam gasket underneath it. When tightening the nuts the rubber washers compress and tear. I have a feeling that this was not meant to be overly tight as the foam just compresses as well. This foam gasket is also wet. I'm thinking to make a proper repair you would probably need to access it from the inside but that might be a lot more disassembly. Never the less I'm going to try to do the repair from the top. I spent a good part of the day looking for the Crest product "Reseal" only to find out that it's not sold in stores, only to body shops. I called the sales rep in my area after I got his number from the east coast distributor for Crest Products. I told him what I intended to use it for and he suggested a product by Sherwin Williams, a rubber based seam sealer. I'll go there on Monday. I plan to seal the foam gasket underneath(where it's exposed) the screen and then use the seam sealer around the existing gasket on the cover. I'll tighten down the whole thing and also use some of the seam sealer around the nuts that have the rubber gaskets. Hopefully it will work. I haven't pulled up the carpets yet but they're wet and it has me concerned. I wonder how many unsuspecting Town Car Owners there are out there with this problem. Do you think it's an age issue related to the foam shrinking or drying out or maybe the adhesive Ford used? Maybe it's an engineering issue? Replies to this message: ralka (Nov 15, 2008 10:04 am) robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 12:13 pm) ralka (Nov 16, 2008 5:50 am) and 2 more...
#64 of 207 by 99towncarexec Nov 15, 2008 (7:08 am)
I looked at the whole setup the other night.The inner door seals have a gap between the body and the door.I tried to adjust them and it comes off one side while going on the other.It's like that at the 4 doors.I might do your hose thing as well when it stops raining!The inner door seals have the inside of them covered w/interior color material.That's how certain ones came. Replies to this message: robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 7:17 am) robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 7:22 am)
#65 of 207 Re: [99towncarexec] by robkstone Nov 15, 2008 (7:17 am)
Replying to: 99towncarexec (Nov 15, 2008 7:08 am) ok- I'll check mine too!
#66 of 207 Re: [99towncarexec] by robkstone Nov 15, 2008 (7:22 am)
Replying to: 99towncarexec (Nov 15, 2008 7:08 am) I'm just wondering the way the doors are designed how the water would soak the carpets if seals or weatherstripping was bad on the doors or the body. I would think that the water would run down to the sill and outside. My carpet is only wet in the rear in the footwell, not the surrounding areas on top which would leave me to believe that it's coming from the front and settling in the rear at the lowest point.
#67 of 207 by 99towncarexec Nov 15, 2008 (7:22 am)
Yea,if you see a space when you're sitting in the car chances are they're bad.
#68 of 207 Re: Water leak-update 10-28-08 [robkstone] by ralka Nov 15, 2008 (10:04 am)
Replying to: robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 7:07 am) Hi the gaskets on the fasteners will crush down that is ok. the thing to be sure of is that the inside of the air inlet is tight against the plennum chamber. the outer housing (which you removed with the 8mm and 11mm fasteners) is the starting point of the penetration in the air vent, as long as that is your leak. make sure you seal this as described in the previous post the extra sealant that comes out when you tighten down the housing when brused over will form a seal around the back of the outer air vent cover. i have seen this problem as well as cowl seem and hvac main seal leaks in town cars right off the showroom floor, so sometimes age is a factor but not always. the foam gaskets and other sealants will shrink and crack with age in any vehicle. finding out what area the water is coming from is the most improtant step, otherwise you are just guessing and possibly wasting your time and efforts. Lincoln town cars , Ford Crown vics, and mercury grand marquis have had these problems for at least 20 yrs. with slight variations per model. LOL if i can be of help let me know. Replies to this message: robkstone (Nov 15, 2008 12:13 pm) ralka (Nov 16, 2008 5:50 am) robkstone (Nov 16, 2008 8:42 am) and 1 more...
#69 of 207 by 99towncarexec Nov 15, 2008 (10:56 am)
Ralka,where you been?Glad you're chiming in here.I ordered the driver door seal for mine.I pulled the floor plug out a little the other night from the back and a good amount of water dripped out.Still gets a little wet on the passenger side.I see that that door seal is gapped too,so I'll get another one for that door too. Replies to this message: ralka (Nov 16, 2008 5:21 am) ralka (Nov 16, 2008 5:59 am)
#70 of 207 Re: Water leak-update 10-28-08 [ralka] by robkstone Nov 15, 2008 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: ralka (Nov 15, 2008 10:04 am) ralka: should I tighten as hard as I can then and compress the foam as much as I can? I definitely think the water is coming in there. I took up the carpet in the front passenger and it was soaked(saw the two drain plugs and removed them for some circulation)-also the jute backed pad on the firewall was soaked so it's definitely coming from the top- also all the gaskets for all the plastic pieces I removed were wet as well as the foam gasket below the screen. I can see why it's important to add additional gasket material in the rear of the the vent cover as mine is compressed and there's a large gap between the gasket and the edge of the plastic. Have you had to replace the carpet in any of the cars you've worked on or remove the seats and the console to take up all the carpet? Once the leak is fixed would you worry about mold,,rust,etc.? Replies to this message: ralka (Nov 16, 2008 5:50 am) robkstone (Nov 16, 2008 8:42 am) ralka (Nov 16, 2008 10:05 am)

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