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Hi, All We looked at 07 Accord today (v6). It's all nice, bit i was confused by the shifter...i had D, D3, 2, 1 positions.... There's no D4? Whats't up with that? All automatics in all the cars i ahve seen give you the number of positions equal to the number of gears...or have paddles, or buttons of some kind? On my 4sp auto I like downshifting one gear down on some ramps, helps with stability.... What's the explanation here? Of all gears I would think one before the last will be the most used for most situations...
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Replying to: yury (Jul 21, 2007 4:54 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 5:10 pm)
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Replying to: yury (Jul 21, 2007 5:19 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 5:45 pm) i am just trying to undesrtand rationelle here....are they trying to say that because tha 4th and 5th are so close together downshofting to 4th simply would make any significant difference? i drove an 07 Altima with CVT and 6 ratio paddle shift...i got the impression that gears are too close for manual control, you most likely woul have to tap down twice....but i might be wrong.
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Replying to: yury (Jul 21, 2007 5:54 pm) That is probably the case, but I'm not positive. It doesn't seem like putting 4th gear on the shift position selector would be difficult. I would try downshifting to D3 at a lower speed first, to get a feel for it. I don't think 60mph would be too high a speed to do it. If it kicks down too hard, just don't do it again. 
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 8:19 pm) on a Pontiac Vibe 5 speed manual I used to go through that curve on 4th and it felt like the right gear. Keeping in mind the gear ratios and final drive i ended up with the ratio of 3.5066. with the Accord the same calculation yielded 4.5186. i also compared the jumps in ratio between 5th-4th on Vibe and D3 and D on Accord. the gap was 3.5 times wider on Accord...(duh, 2 gears vs one) ! Looks like it would rev up way too much.....unacceptable. however i am having hard time believing that Accord, supposedly "the drivers car" did that to the driver. Sounds pretty bad. Some cars have a separate overdrive off button that makes up for the lost position on the shifter...and with D to D-1 being the most useful kick down it is actually easier to use than the shift lever and all sounds pretty logical. And here, on a decent car they go ahead an get rif of it? just doesn't make sense! so i guess....unless someone finds the overdrive switch somewhere i will not be buying the Accord. Which is a bummer, cause i like it otherwise.
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Replying to: yury (Jul 21, 2007 8:50 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 22, 2007 5:24 am)  if i was looking at 4 i would just get a stick btw here's the final ratio (gear ratio by the final drive ratio) comparision for V6 with auto and V6 in a 6 sp manual 07 coupe: Auto: 1st gear 11.3408 2nd gear 6.7336 3rd gear 4.5186 4th gear 3.2339 5th gear 2.3036 6 speed: 1st 12.9297 2nd 8.1921 3rd 5.593 4th 4.1125 5th 3.2242 6th 2.5333 so basically we end up a little lower than the 4th on the 6 sp. on the vibe it would be equvalent to somewhere between 4th and 3rd a bit biased towards the 3rd. however the VTEC engine is generally higer revving than a non-VTEC. Even the V6 has redline hugher than vibe's 4. i still don't know, we're still missing a gear. what's the usage for D3 according the owvers manual?
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Replying to: yury (Jul 22, 2007 5:43 am) same for the Vibe: 3024 at 4th and 4458 at 3rd. i hope i didn mess up the math. so it's a bit high....however the car is heavier plus i don't know what's the difference in engine braking with this v6 and vibe's 4. on 4th that we're missing here the V6 would rev at 2648. which may be on the lower side for this car.
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