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#41 of 281 2003 Ford Expedition, feeling the electrical pain
Jun 01, 2008 (9:07 pm)
I feel for all you bloggers on teh forum, I have the similar issue, but I trace it to the radio first, it owuld go off on its own and i can hear the realy click in teh fuse box, then I started getting the door ajar, soetimes with or withoiiut the dome lights comiong on or hearing the doors unlock. I have read blogs that say this is water related, I am dry as a bone in sunny Texas with temps in the 90's, so this leads me to believe that I either have a relay going bas or that the issue is in teh VSM vehicle security Module as there is a direct tie to this, I am just getting ready to pay this off as soon as the income tax comes in and will take it to the dealer, I am betting that it is one of the 300 series relays that I cannot find, or it is the VSM, if anyone figures this out before I spend the big bucks let me know, kd4kmyhoo.com Ron Thanks
#42 of 281 Re: Help with Relay electrical issues 2003 Expedition [autoboy16]
Jun 04, 2008 (9:58 pm)
2:The Truck will not turn over. When the Key is turned to the ON position, it just makes a loud buzzing sound from the Glovebox and it will not even turn over tostart.
I had to replace my relay switch which is on passenger side below the glove box. It worked for months, then weeks and now days. For a temporary fix you can replace the relay switch. I am trying to find a permanet fix.
#43 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition electrical problems [pgn839]
Jun 09, 2008 (10:33 am)
I just wanted to add from my recent experience and troublshooting. it is not always the window seal, it is just moisture in general. I live in very dry conditions and have to run the airconditioner all the time, it is the sweat from the airconditioner chambers that has been causing my problem where the moisture builds up under the dash in the cab and drips down onto the Fusebox assembly which of course houses the GEM on the back side very small part of the module, I finally found it, last weak when I heard the sound of frying like when water drops on to a hot stove, and at that point the Radio wentout and the windows would not work, I turned off the air and suffered the heat and let the truck dry out, everything worked, the very neck time I used the airconditioner after it built up moisure under the dash walla the problem was back, I am going to reove teh unit and see if there is a way to seal it so it doesn't let the moisture in, may be as simple as putting a little insulation of some sorts , once I do, I will repost the blog, maybe I can save allot of people moneythat Ford is absorbing from others Ron kd4kmzyahoo.com
#44 of 281 2004 Electrical Problems - continued
Jun 09, 2008 (8:24 pm)
Back to the dealer a 4th time with this SUV. Told of yet another part more $$ to fix problem - they are now approx 75% sure this will do it. Yeah RIGHT!
I've have heard for the last time how service tech can not make car act up and they've "never heard of anything like this" before. I guess non of them service techs, dealers or Ford pay any attention to the communications (emails sent to them or blogs)
If they can't repeat problem.... Can I sell car without problems??
If anyone has listing and info on previous parts problems fixes, I am printing tons of pages out to take with me to the dealer to show them of the "non-existing" problems with electrical system(s).
#45 of 281 Possessed Expedition
Jun 19, 2008 (3:16 am)
When I start my 2000 Ford Expedition by dashboard lights and radio display flicker off and on. My driver side window goes down on its own. Sometimes my ac turns off. Now my dome lights stay on while I am driving and even after I turn by car off.
I have replaced the battery and alternator. My mechanic said my alarm system was malfunctioning so he disconnected it. That did not solve the problem. And off course when I try to show my mechanic what is wrong it doesn't do it. Very frustrated !!!!!!
#46 of 281 Re: Help with Relay electrical issues 2003 Expedition [tammymac]
Jun 21, 2008 (10:27 am)
I forgot to respond back! Thanks! Thats exactly what it was!! So far, only the other issues remain. We're tackling them one at a time! Next is the annoying door ajar!
I love driving the Expy but gas is really becoming a threat. We put in $75 and only got 3quarters worth of gas... But the MPG is improving! I was driving and I was getting nearly 16mpg City! Big Baby never revs but it is a beast when it does!
As much as we hate paying for gas... and we HATE, we love our truck more! Being paid off only adds insult to injury!
#47 of 281 Re: Help with Relay electrical issues 2003 Expedition [autoboy16]
Jun 21, 2008 (12:54 pm)
Get some WD40 and go around to all your doors and spary the door connector area, the door adjar switches are in there nowspray and open and close each door several times to get the lubricant up in there and your problem may go away, mine did no more door adjar or interior light activation on thier own, amazing that everything went hay wire around the same time and I kept reading it was one thing it is multiple things. ALready replaced teh heat and cold attuator in the rear now the roof and floor attuator is out, Replaced the Vehicle secirity module that was fun, moissture from teh aircondition sweating into the box was causing a positive short that when wet was shutting off my radio and woulnd't let the windows come down, I heard it was water from teh window seal, but I sprayed the window and roof exceissively and never found the water penetrating and then realized it never happened in teh winter or when the AC wasn't on or had been on where moisture had built up, after a well the contacts will start to stick and you end up changing the Vehicle secutiy module and the fuse box assembly , because the GEm is on teh BAck of the Fuse Box and teh contacts will stay stuck periodically.
#48 of 281 Re: Help with Relay electrical issues 2003 Expedition [tammymac]
Aug 17, 2008 (10:13 am)
I also have a 2003 expedition with the same problem.
Have you found a solution or like me, are you just replacing the starter relay?
I have had the vehicle in for service 4 times, each time they replaced the symptom but never fixed the cause.
Now that I know what to change, I found the starter relay at Napa for $10.00
Any input would be helpful.
#49 of 281 2001 Expedition - electrical???
Aug 29, 2008 (12:34 am)
Without warning my expedition began having numerous problems. First, the gear shift became stuck in park and could not be shifted while it was cranked. Fortunately I was able to drive home from work by turning key to 1st position, and cranking the car form neutral. Then a few raindrops later, I found out that my wipers were not working. After popping the hood I noticed the hoodlight did not work either. Neither did the door chime or inside lights. The headlights, brake and signal lights all worked fine. I really don't think the problem is moisture in the fusebox - everything seemed dry under the hood. Somebody please give me some possible causes and solutions before I get the inevitable "run-around" from the dealership.
#50 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical??? [brainiac318]
Aug 29, 2008 (7:49 am)
Well, there are multiple things that can go wron, I have fixed several but not the last.
Item 1 fixed. popping in rear passenger wheel well, was plenenun mototr for lowere and upper air cox was sheared had to replace whole unit $65
Item 2, interior lights coming on , door adjar and locks on and off, fix for this was wd40 in all door mechanisms one of teh doors had gummed up and was flaking out, but ever since I sprayed them and opened them and closed them seveal times to get the lubricant throughout, have not had this problem again
Item 3 Pending problem. Radio goes off and on intermittently, can sometimes hear relays when this occurs sometimes not, at the same time this occurs the power windows and door button illumination goes out.
What I have done so far, removed and inspected the Fuse block and the VSM, no water or traces of water, opened every relay and cleaned all the contacts no resolve, there were solder on relays on the underlying board of teh fuse block so I thought maybe one of those had wigged out, so I replaced the entire fuse block, $178 this did not fix the problem. I even cleaned all the battery cables and replaced the battery. ANother $109(recommneded by Ford Tech, I was due for a new battery any way, but once again this did not fix it.
SO isolate time, is it the buttons on teh door for the window controls? Is it the Radio or is there a short
I was so upset, I started to remove the dash cover firs tthe faceplate that covers the steering whell gages and before I could get it out as I was trying to Jimmy over the steering whell column, I noticed that as I shook it the radio came back on, seem to happen off and on as I was shaking it then it stopped, tried to shake each indivisual wire harnes still connected to this but could not isolate it, in fristration I hit the center of teh dash over the radio, walla the radio came on then it wnet off and every time Ihit the dash the same thiing, SO is it in the radio or is there a short under the dash, this is where I am now trying to trouble it, but I am pretty sure it is in the dash or radio, if anyone has already figure it out let me know before I pull the whole dash apart looking for an open , burnt or broke wire, see sometimes when I hit bumps or turn hard I notice the radio will do the same ting, remember I said the windows stop functioning at the same time. How many more grey hairs Ron