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#151 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical??? [shrek57]
by mountainman_4
Mar 06, 2010 (2:22 pm)
Hey...thanks for your post, because you confirmed what I found on only one other post, and that is that final absolute resolution to this whole problem isn't the PCM, EEC, or the Transceiver in the key/column, but in that damn short in the cluster. Ford had a tech bulletin out on it a year after the vehicle was made.
Funny...it had been snowing here for 3-days, right at 32-deg., 'snow-snot' all in the floorboard, snow fog all over, nasty weather...probably had 3-inches of snow up against the windshield by the air intake screen around the wipers...flat broke for the time, I pulled the battery and the PCM plug...hmmm...moisture. Ok...I pulled the PCM...and the inside of the cover seemed to be moist/damp. So, little low-temp blow-dryer, lot of WD-40 on the plug and the recepticle at the PCM...put it all back together, fire it right up...wham...no problem...then, 10-minutes later, it died. So, with no hesitation, I went to the store and bought 2-bottles of ISO-Heat (Isopropyl dryer for fuel) and put them in the tank...started it up...AGAIN...and kept foot to the pedal at 2,000-RPM for 10-minutes (it wouldn't die then)...and you could feel the engine begin to smooth out some...and it has worked perfectly since.
By the way...the odometer on mine intermittently goes off and on while going down the road...DUE TO THE WIRE-SHORT in the instrument cluster that I am going to solder when weather warms up, now...should fix it all.
FYI...THIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST DIAGNOSTIC DONE ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE...I hunted the internet for 3-days, saw a thousand posts IDENTICAL TO MINE, and no one ever printed a resolution...though it seems LOTS OF PCMs got sold as an attempted fix.
Guys, I am telling you...try this first...this worked better than dropping a locker into a 9-inch rear, to get better traction!!!
#152 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical - the saga continues...
by mountainman_4
Mar 29, 2010 (9:55 am)
Ok...I got it fixed, drove it...ran great. Then, drove it during a heavy rainstorm about 60-miles away from home, and it DIED! Cost $240 to have it towed back...sat for 4-days, disconnected the battery, reconnected the battery...and on a beautiful sunny day, took it for a drive...ran great! Ok...drove it around for a few days...ran WONDERFUL. Next time I needed to make the same 60-mile trip, again it was raining...same deal, but $280 tow bill this time!!!
Got it home, dried it out, again...drove great about 3-days later...put maybe 500-miles on it...ran great...not one miss. Went out this morning, raining like a dog...started it. It ran for MAYBE 10-seconds, and DIED. Won't start, PATS is flashing again...and I am sure that when the rain stops, and all is dry, it will run PERFECT AGAIN.
HELP SOMEONE!!! What is getting wet, or humid, that even sitting still in the driveway, just starting it causes this?!?!?!
#153 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical - the saga continues... [mountainman_4]
by thickchick
Apr 11, 2010 (9:02 am)
I'm trying to help as many folks as I can. I thought it was the windshield that was leaking ... MAYBE! We had the windshield replaced the day after a hard rain (we had a "starburst that eventually lead to a long crack"); hubby tried to find any possible leaks ... but we didn't see anything wet, when the windshield was pulled off (the seals appeared dry
).
Our windshield tech told us that the "groove" on the top of the truck (where the luggage rack is), is notorious for causing LEAKS. In other words, where the "luggage rack" is attached ... big hole ... it is HOLLOW right there.
So we lucked out ... we were able to follow where the water was getting in and we sealed all the HOLES accordingly.
Since a new windshield was installed, we had a "good seal" there (#1 culprit
times).
We took the luggage rack off and basically made a "gasket" before putting it back on! (when you take it off, you will see what I mean).
We also sealed the hole(s) where the inside, assist handle is located. (the handle in the upper, left corner).
Hopefully, this helps someone else. Not exactly SURE which method worked (I believe it was the LUGGAGE RACK HOLES), but we no longer have that problem when it rains anymore.
(** note - we had the battery replaced and a new alternator, before figuring this out .... sheesh )
#154 of 281 07 Expedition power window problem
by chammons
May 04, 2010 (12:59 pm)
Ok so I have had this truck for almost three years now and the both front windows wont go up or down. I was just wondering if anyone else was having this problem? They say there is no recall on this but I just don't see how they could just go out with out there being some era on their part.
#155 of 281 Re: 07 Expedition power window problem [chammons]
by kd4kmz
May 04, 2010 (8:07 pm)
Does your radio work or not when the windows don't work?
#156 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical - the saga continues... [mountainman_4]
by wroe
Jun 05, 2010 (7:46 pm)
did you find out what was the cause of your troubles. Every time I go to car wash it dont run right.
#157 of 281 Re: 2001 Expedition - electrical - the saga continues... [mountainman_4]
by bknesal
Jul 08, 2010 (5:59 pm)
I know exactly what the problem is. You need to have your window taken out and resealed. There was a factory prob. that lets rain in. It drips to the ele. box and fries everything. When it dries the prob is gone. I did mine and I havent had a problem since. It happens in the 1998-2002 models.
#158 of 281 1999 expidetion eb tail light problem
by littlekuntry
Jul 18, 2010 (7:50 pm)
I am having a problem with my tail lights not working but all other light functions are working also tag lights not working. And the instrument panel lights and some of the radio lights are not working it all started at the same exact time I bought a gem mod and changed it out but nothing changed I was told by a dealer that it did not have to be revamped can someone please help me thanks little kuntry
Aug 28, 2010 (3:10 pm)
my 97 exp while driving using electrical controls (ie windows a/c front or rear)
vehicle stalls or sometimes dies the dash gauges fluctuate wildly ( ie temp from low to high gas full to empty) change battery a week ago cause had to keep jumping it off
any ideas
#160 of 281 00 Expo blowing #13 fuse
by phil101
Oct 10, 2010 (11:44 pm)
My 2000 Expo keeps blowing the #13 fuse as soon as I put it in. I checked all the bulbs and I did find that the brake lights on the hatch were in really bad shape. I did put new sockets and bulbs, but it did not help. Now I am about to change the brake switch and hope it will fix my problem. The #13 fuse is for my brake, signals and hazard lights. The cruise control is also on this fuse. I recently had the dealer change out the cruise control recall switch thinking maybe that was the problem too. That didn't help. The only other thing wrong is the odometer reading comes and goes every now and then. Oh I forgot to mention that I did change the multifunction switch too. Question- I did find that that two of the wires that plug into the mutifunction switch were not locked in to the socket or plug that goes into the mutifunctin switch, would that cause a short blowing that fuse?