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How does PHILL affect your home gas bill?

13 messages,  Last post on Aug 05, 2007 at 7:48 PM

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#9 of 13 Re: why? [jetboatjohnny] by epnfrn Jul 23, 2007 (4:32 pm)
Replying to: jetboatjohnny (Jul 23, 2007 4:13 pm) this has nothing to do with the topic ... you guys might want to move to new forum. epi
#10 of 13 Re: Home Gas Bill [hdj3] by whoolia Jul 30, 2007 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: hdj3 (Jul 18, 2007 9:44 pm) I can't speak for all gas utilities, but here in Southern California my friend got a Phill system, and now he's paying less than $1 per gasoline gallon equivalent. And the same discount is now applied to his entire home gas bill. Even though prices float, that's still a great discount! So I'm in the process of getting a Phill installed. Not the simplest process, by the way, but I figure it will be worth it. First step here in California is to apply with your local utility for them to evaluate if your local gas meets standards set by the State. If your utility is Southern California Gas Company, go to http://socalgas.com/business/ngv/homefueling.shtml and then click on Letter of Intent. whoolia Replies to this message: hdj3 (Jul 31, 2007 4:57 pm) xpacific (Aug 05, 2007 7:48 pm)
#11 of 13 Re: Home Gas Bill [whoolia] by hdj3 Jul 31, 2007 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: whoolia (Jul 30, 2007 5:31 pm) Thanks. I got approved by the Gas Company. I got an estimate from the a local Phill installer, he is charging $1400.00. The actual Phill hardware is around $4000.00. I'm looking at close to $6k. I know there are incentives like the refund, tax credit and having a carpoo sticker, I just think that's pricey for this Phill system. I gonna try to get a 2nd estimate for a Phill installation. Replies to this message: xpacific (Aug 05, 2007 7:48 pm)
#12 of 13 Re: Home Gas Bill [hdj3] by xpacific Aug 05, 2007 (7:48 pm)
Replying to: hdj3 (Jul 31, 2007 4:57 pm) You might want to consider getting another FuelMaker product other than Phill. There are often used FM4's (fill to 3000 psi) out on eBay for under $4,000 and are infinitely rebuildable as opposed to Phill crapping out on you after 6,000 hours (only 3,000 gallons). If you do get a used one be sure to contact your local FuelMaker dealer to get it checked-out and installed. You might also find a used FM-Q2-36 which fills up to 3600 psi.

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