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Re: questions [mal22]
by exler
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Apr 25, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: mal22 (Apr 24, 2008 4:59 pm)
Just my opinion--most people do not have to be persuaded to buy Camrys--they go to a dealer to get the best price and iron out little details as trim,etc
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- #273 of 308
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Re: questions [exler]
by mackabee
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Apr 25, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: exler (Apr 25, 2008 9:56 am)
Very true.
Mack
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Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry
by jo14
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Apr 26, 2008 (2:45 am)
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Would you advise the purchase of the 4 cylinder 08 or 09 LE? If I read everything correctly here, there are no major differences (excluding price and rebate) between the two correct? Is there any advantage to buying one over the other? Will there be a difference/disadvantageor advantage in 5 years when I resell this car i.e. if I put 15,000 miles per year on it.
FYI: This car will replace my 02 6 cylinder LE which I've been happy with.
Thanks in advance for any advice you provide!
Jo
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- #275 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [jo14]
by mackabee
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Apr 26, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: jo14 (Apr 26, 2008 2:45 am)
Your 09 will be worth more than the 08 five years from now. I would go with the 09.
Mackabee
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- #276 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [jo14]
by exler
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Apr 26, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: jo14 (Apr 26, 2008 2:45 am)
I traded last Oct a 02 for a 08 for $11700 difference plus tax--it had 76000 miles--Both were LE 4's automatic--Last saw 08's were being discounted $1500s--if you can get a 08 at $2500 less than an 09 it may be a good deal-----don't know what a dealer will work with you on an 09--demand for Camry may be down due to gas--see what they'd do on a Pruis if you do not need a bigger car--or a Corolla, check out various dealers if you can---------------------check out a 08 certified also--has a better drivetrain warranty but I believe only 1 year on other components--------
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- #277 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [exler]
by mackabee
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Apr 26, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: exler (Apr 26, 2008 8:53 am)
Camry is no slouch when it comes to fuel economy. Most 4 cylinder Camrys average aroudn 33-34 in the highway. Prius is the hottest seller right now and I doubt if anyone is discounting them. We are out of them at my store and have six coming in the first half of May with two already presold at MSRP. 08 Camrys are also getting scarce so if you are going to make a move it's best to do it now.
Mack
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- #278 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [jo14]
by exler
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Apr 27, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: jo14 (Apr 26, 2008 2:45 am)
Suggest you go to NADA website and get your cars retail value--then try to deal retail to retail or close as you are comfortable with--suggest you also go to Edmunds.com--click on " tips and advice" at the top of page--then see CONFESSIONS OF A CAR SALESMAN-on that site -------------- -a most interesting read-------------------------NADA used car prices are in my opinion higher than Kelly ---------
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- #279 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [mackabee]
by exler
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Apr 27, 2008 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 26, 2008 8:13 pm)
Are 09 Camry Hybrids a vehicle in demand and getting MSRP also--with gas as it is, are they worth the difference in price? Always curious if the hybrids used car price decline more as years go on due to the need to replace the battery in I believe 8 years---may be wrong on that 8 year thing. I do not know the cost to replace the battery? I always like reading your posts--enjoy your humor---you know the vehicle.
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- #280 of 308
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [exler]
by mackabee
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Apr 27, 2008 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: exler (Apr 27, 2008 6:51 am)
Everything that has high fuel economy ratings is in demand right now. The 09 Corolla is beginning to take off. The Camry hybrid we are also out of as I thought we had one on the lot but I couldn't find it yesterday to show to a customer. The battery and synergy drive have an 8year 100k mile warranty. That doesn't mean they will only last 8 years. Remember this technology was proven in Japan for three years before it came to the US. The first Prius was running in Japan from 1997 to 2000 and then we got it in 2000 with second generation technology. The current Prius has third generation technology and the second gen technology was licensed to Ford and Nissan by Toyota so we are still one generation ahead of everyone else. All the first gen Japanese Prius are still running. The first question I asked when we first got the car in 2000 was "How long will the battery last and how much will it cost to replace?" I was told the battery pack would last "the life of the car" which at that time meant 15 years or 150k miles or more.
You may have read reports on Consumer Reports about the time it takes to recoup the money spent on a hybrid versus a just gas car. If I recall correctly they said it would take 5 years or so. They based it on gas prices then and also on maintenance costs which are actually really low as the only maintenance needed on them is regular oil changes, tire rotations, etc., on the gas side of the car only. The electric side is maintenance free. If the battery pack needs replacement and the car is out warranty it costs around $3200.00 dollars.
So the difference in price may not be worth it to some customers but they do feel like they are contributing to a cleaner environment and most if not all Prius owners say they would buy another one if they had to replace their Prius. It has the highest loyalty rating of any car.
Mackabee 
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Re: Can't decide: 08 or 09 LE Camry [mackabee]
by exler
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Apr 27, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 27, 2008 11:57 am)
Thanks--very complete answer--I see from CR that Pruis owners very loyal--I sat in one but the dash seemed very large--I know you cannot compare the sizes of the Camry and Prius interiors so in the future I would consider a Camry hybrid.--As you said "gas prices then"----as they increase the time element would shorten, I think.
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